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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby Robapov » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:22 pm

i am baffled by the awesomeness of this thread...I pray this gets put into production :mrgreen:

"British Green vinyl covering, oxblood with interwoven gold threads, logo in polished brass. Dimensions in mm WxHxD 450x400x225
Control panel will be on top, recessed."

:shock:
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby VacuumVoodoo » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:22 am

Robapov wrote:i am baffled by the awesomeness of this thread...I pray this gets put into production :mrgreen:

"British Green vinyl covering, oxblood with interwoven gold threads, logo in polished brass. Dimensions in mm WxHxD 450x400x225
Control panel will be on top, recessed."

:shock:


I'm crunching the numbers to cut external labor cost as much as possible. Some things we can't avoid to subcontract.
We want to go "green" on this, lead free ROHS compliant, cab made of woods from replanted forests etc.

Keep praying.... :wink:
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby mrpicard » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:42 am

Definitely very interesting.. Depending on the cost I could be interested in signing up as well.
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby Robapov » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:07 pm

I am also super interested...keep us updated please!
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby VacuumVoodoo » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:21 am

An update for you cliffhangers:

I have most of the quotes in and so far looking pretty good. Got the quote for PCBs yesterday and am still waiting for quotes on metalwork (delayed due to some changes, see Option 1 below). Once this comes in I'll be able to get the pricing worked out. I want to retire in Brazil.... :lol:

We had long discussions with Bjorn and some friends "in the know" about how to present/market this as a product and what options to offer.

One interesting thing that came out was a strong request to do both a head and a combo, the rationale behind the request being that this amp will not attract first time buyers or metal kids but rather more experienced aficionados of top shelf gear. As such they will already have an assortment of gear including a number of speaker cabs and would therefore be more interested in a head only.

So, to quote a russian proverb "keep the wolf fed and the sheep alive" we came up with a number of options:

Option 1:

Head only.
At first I thought of offering a naked amplifier chassis but that would leave transformers and the tube exposed, unfortunately this infringes on electrical safety rules...
The solution is to provide a metal hood/cover, this will be in perforated steel, powder coated in black, sides in some exotic wood. Overall shape sort of a cross between american post/lunch box falling in love with a Minimoog.

Option 2:

Combo ala IKEA.

This will include complete, tested & burned in amplifier chassis and combo cab as D.I.Y. kit. You assemble it, chose your covering and grill cloth or invite spray can artists and have one of a kind graffiti design on the cab. Ok, I'll include assembly drawings and instructions at no extra charge
The amp is ready to play through your existing speaker cab during beer breaks while you're building the cab.


Option 3

Complete combo, finished and dressed up (yes, British Racing Green vinyl etc. etc.), less loudspeaker.

Why no loudspeaker? We think it's ridiculous to buy speakers from US and reexport them from Sweden.
The prototype amp was voiced with a custom prototype from Eminence which in essence is a slightly modified Red Fang, differences are too small to justify investing in custom version of which we would have to order a minimum of 50pcs.

Any 12" 8 Ohm speaker will make sounds BUT we recommend standard Red Fang for the tone.

Add on option X:

Active FX-loop. This will be a small PCB that will retro-fit into the amp. No soldering required. Will be available later on.

What do you guys think? Skip any of the options?

I am budgeting for a 25 pcs run.
There are 14 names on the list already.
3-4 amps will stay in Sweden as demo samples and loaners to magazines for test reviews.

This makes 7 unspoken for.

Everything working out we could be shipping these out by mid/end September.

The cliff hanger:
Who will miss the last one by a minute :?:
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby Robapov » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:08 pm

mmmm i like option 3 :D
sweet update!
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby Cobra » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:14 pm

I think you should keep all options except the FX loop, seems unnecessary...
Any idea of the dimensions of both the combo & the head?
Please put me on the list for 2 Loudermore's!!
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby VacuumVoodoo » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:25 pm

Cobra wrote:[size=150]I think you should keep all options except the FX loop, seems unnecessary...
Any idea of the dimensions of both the combo & the head?
Please put me on the list for 2 Loudermore's!!
Thank you, thank you very much!


Well, after a gig with the prototype Thomas said he needs the loop as he's using a lot of time based effects. So I think it may have some use. But it will only be available as special feature.
We just plugged a SM58 in front of the speaker and out through PA. The sound guy said it was first guitar amp he did NOT need to EQ in the mix :)

Dimensions of the combo and a rough sketch of the design are in my post on previous page. The head will be something like WxHxD: 300 x 160 x 160 mm. I'll post a design sketch in day or two.
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby cabo » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:13 pm

I like option 3 with added fx loop(option x).
I can see having use for the loop.
thanks for the updates! :D
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Re: Much more fun playing fuzzguitar......

Postby analoghog » Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:33 pm

...will there be a 8 and 16 ohm speaker output jack ?...
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