Pale green compressor!

[jonnyrocket]

Donner, is the maximum voltage allowed for the Bearfoot Pale Green Compressor 15V? I ask because even though that's what's stated on the Bearfoot site, I noticed that on the BJFE Library the maximum stated for the BJFE Pine Green Compressor is 18V.

PGC (12 Volts) vs. Effectrode (so far)
Finally got to try both alongside and have to say that the PGC has gone beyond my expectations. They are both very very similar at lower levels of compression and both are extremely quiet. The Effectrode seem to have a bit more warmth it is very negligible and I probably would not have noticed if I did not have both pedals next to each other. They start becoming more different once you start increasing the compression. The Effectrode can get quite compressed, whereas the PGC is quite mild even at maximum compression. Another big difference is that the Effectrode works better as a booster.

So has anybody else gotten theirs? I'm curious to see what others think.
Cheers!

[Donner]

Yes as stated the BearFoot goes to 15v.

Yes the PGC is not warm and rounded, its more about maintaining clarity and adding sparkle and harmonic enhancement with just enough compression while staying dead quiet.

It good to have options

[MBT74]

Bearfoot PGC is now heading my way so the countdown to has begun.

Very much looking forward to trying this with my other BJFE & BF pedals. How are people using this one the most - before or after their OD's?

[thesjkexperience]

Yes as stated the BearFoot goes to 15v.

Yes the PGC is not warm and rounded, its more about maintaining clarity and adding sparkle and harmonic enhancement with just enough compression while staying dead quiet.

It good to have options

I am curious as to why the Voltages are different? Is there any sound or playability differences because of this? I ask because, somewhat unfortunately, I prefer the PGC at 18 Volts.

[Pinegreen]

Mine arrived yesterday. I'll gig with it on Thursday night and know more them. Plan to use it for a boost for acoustic lead work. I've a/b it with my trusty cs3. It preserves the original tone much much better than the boss, but doesn't add much sustain. It should work very well for my mellower tunes.

Question for anyone who owns the mad prof forrest, does the sustain mode sound similar to the PGC...but with sustain?

Electric wise, it makes my tele sound pretty stellar through my Carr. I fully understand all the "sweetening" and "compression for those who don't like compression" descriptions now.

[Seiche]

Yes as stated the BearFoot goes to 15v.

Donner, have you tried it at 18v in the shop? Is that because the datasheet of the NE5534 suggests the recommended voltage is 15v? Absolute max voltage is stated as 22v, so it shouldn't fry right? or is there another reason?

[jonnyrocket]

Yes, I'm also interested about the difference in maximum Voltage of the BJFE Pine Green and Bearfoot Pale Green.

[BJF]

Hi,



Slight misscommunication here but yes if you have to you can run Bearfoot PGC at 18V by all means and it follows that same specifications as BJF PGC quite simply


Actually the datasheet for NE5534 states that it can be run from 6V's to 44V's in single supply.


I would also like to say that if 18V was the standard supply rather than 9V different design choices could be made.


What happens when you run PGC at 18V is simplified that influence of the compressor amplifier limitations will be lessened.

Other parts of circuit remain as far as possible the same at the expense of heat, while eventually the output voltage swing of the compressor amplifier will exceed the window in which the detector works.

There's also a limit to how wide the detection window can be without linearization of control elements rather than mere selecting, which however doesn't really matter for the circuit since the window is wide enough for the intended application.


Have fun
BJ

[Pinegreen]

Just returned home from my first gig with the PGC. I AM IMPRESSED. Yesterday, I put it on my board and plugged into my Bose L1. I recorded a few loops and asked my wife to listen to them. She, who has a very good ear, said the PGC clip beat the old cs3 by a long shot. This pedal is stellar! I used it tonight for all of my lead work and it brought out the natural acoustic tone of my collings om1a much better than other compressors that I've tried in the past. I bought a barber tone press prior to the PGC and it made a loud pop noise when engaged - thus unusable. Flipped it on tgp for a loss. Back to the PGC, I find it to be an extremely musical pedal that is sensitive to my pick attack and allows for subtle dynamics to shine though. It has sparked my interest in the SBEQ. Hats off the Donner and BJ for making it available in the US for a very reasonable price. I have a big gig lined up for next Friday opening for The Verve Pipe. The PGC will be on my board for it, can't wait!

[Donner]

Thats great to hear PineGreen let us know how the gig goes ---- I realy like how the PGC works with acoustics and basses as well --- IVe never gotten a chance to run drums thru it but thats on me to do someday list