As predicted: Another SWF FS on the 'Bay!

[SteveA]

So you mean that that guy is just Flipping it ? That's crazy. To buy a pedal of that grade to just flip it for 100$ or so. I'd like to have someone chime in though. My BJF Snow White has no Custom Shop label on it, inferring it was perhaps made after the development stage. Any clues? The only ones I see without the Custom Shop label is the Arctic White.

S

[ptbarnum]

So you mean that that guy is just Flipping it ? That's crazy. To buy a pedal of that grade to just flip it for 100$ or so. I'd like to have someone chime in though. My BJF Snow White has no Custom Shop label on it, inferring it was perhaps made after the development stage. Any clues? The only ones I see without the Custom Shop label is the Arctic White.

S

i'd like to know more about the other existing swf's as well. For example: mine says customshop, is number 21(thought there were fewer than that), and also has an annotation near the serial that reads "HG, or MG." which i'm guessing means more, or high gain, as the previous owner stated it was requested to be higher than standard gain for the swf...

[Donner]

well everyone is an individual - all handtuned by BJ - and then Eva sits down with paints and brushes and hand letters every one so there are variations sometimes - some have meaning and some are just variations

[scottcw]

That's my old SWF that I won in a Donner drawing.

[melodichaotic]

As predicted in post #2 of the following thread:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2885

http://cgi.ebay.com/BJFe-Snow-White-Fuz ... _500wt_925

And look at the starting price. Just a few days ago most of us would have found that to be a very good final sales price, not a mere opening bid!

So, what cool BJFE uber-rarities will be the next to surface? There have certainly been some amazing ones appear in the past few weeks - and that's a good thing!

Good luck and have fun making great sounds with BJFE!

I guess you didn't see this post I left:

"Ya gotta love the resale market, guys making more money off of merely flipping pedals than the genius who created the circuit designs and built them by hand, Bjorn Juhl, gets - WTF?!? Well, if you're over the age of ten, which I'm assuming is everybody in here, then you already know (and hopefully have accepted the fact that) life's not fair!"

Well, two things: As far as the resale market is concerned...hey, it just is what it is. Yes there are the flippers, but also the market fluctuations, bidding wars,supply and demand, misinformation, hype, and complete emotional retardation/ignorance in these instances help create these lucrative opportunities, making owners sometimes think twice about keeping something so potentially valuable.

Once any builder makes something and puts it out there, it's out of their hands, period. We can point fingers and/or complain all we want...sometimes justifiable and sometimes it just falls upon deaf ears, because all it takes is one overbid auction, or one ridiculously zealous rare pedal monger to create a rip tide that pulls out the other few uber-rarities you thought you'd otherwise not see.

Will SteveA be complaining when his Paypal account gets a net positive workout(aside from the mandatory fees) at auction end? Doubtful.

Will the final price now accurately reflect the(new) value of the Snow White Fuzz? Well, again that's left up to the market whether it's a one-off fluke or not--same with that $900+ Model R...

Hey, I was the seller of a DAM 1965 pedal about 2 1/2-3 years ago that I later found out got a 12 page thread going on the DAM site just for that auction...it was a very cool sounding fuzz and I waited a VERY long time for it, but in the end it wasn't for me...I'd have been happy to get double of what I paid for it which at the time was only $200 shipped...ending bid was $1825...a new record---I had no idea at the time...was I complaining--hell no. Now if those come up for sale(and two JUST sold in the last month), they command $1800 partly because only 50 were made, and maybe in part to my auction.

You now say you are faced with tax realities and that brings me to my second point.

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do...I more often think it's not life that isn't necessarily unfair, but our behavior.

[SteveA]

You know in all honesty, Snow White Fuzzes and Arctic White Fuzzes are pretty rare. In the "forum" market, I bought the Snow White and my new Arctic White for a respectable sum of money. They were never cheap to begin with. When you count in that ebay takes in 5% of whatever it makes, sure i'll be making more, but really not that much more. The fact is that some pedals are wanted in more significant quantity to satisfy the market's desire for it. The best pedals that make it in production command ~500$ on the bay. But, the Snow White and the Sparkling Yellow Overdrive are 2 pedals that are loved and wanted in higher number. I'm sure that if someone put their SYOD on the 'bay they'd see the same kind of numbers. The market speaks for itself.

[melodichaotic]

You know in all honesty, Snow White Fuzzes and Arctic White Fuzzes are pretty rare. In the "forum" market, I bought the Snow White and my new Arctic White for a respectable sum of money. They were never cheap to begin with. When you count in that ebay takes in 5% of whatever it makes, sure i'll be making more, but really not that much more. The fact is that some pedals are wanted in more significant quantity to satisfy the market's desire for it. The best pedals that make it in production command ~500$ on the bay. But, the Snow White and the Sparkling Yellow Overdrive are 2 pedals that are loved and wanted in higher number. I'm sure that if someone put their SYOD on the 'bay they'd see the same kind of numbers. The market speaks for itself.

Hey, it's all good...just stating that the the dynamics of the market are a bit more dimensional in the scope of supply and demand, than it simply being unfair or unjust, than what sometimes gets projected. In the case of Ebay, emotions play a BIG factor in the outcome rare or not...it's the psychology of bidding and how that easily can get out of hand when someone really wants something.
And in case any points were missed, or were taken the wrong way, may your auction be most swiftly bid upon in the final minutes!