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How many of you know the notes you're playing.....

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:53 am
by Eskimo_Joe
....as you're playing them on the fretboard and how much does it help?

I've always just known chord shapes, scales, root notes, and a few things in between, but am considering going deeper into it. Any feedback?

Thanks,

Matt

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:29 am
by DocRock
Hi Matt,

Well, I'm conservatory-educated ... so my opinions about these sorts of things are firmly rooted in the "knowledge is power" camp.

That's not to say that everyone should enroll in conservatory and get a music degree ... far from it. But even private lessons from a competent teacher can take you miles ahead.

It's just that you'd be amazed at the things you could achieve when you know what you're doing. It's like learning a martial art in that it's also a discipline that gives strength and balance. Not only does writing your own music become easier, but learning pieces becomes a breeze because your ear becomes further in tune with your mind and vice versa. I play mostly in cover bands these days, and my musical knowledge and understanding has made it a breeze for me to learn literally scores of songs. Everything is just so much easier in general.

It's like the same reason you'd spend the extra money on top-end gear like BJF pedals, instead of whatever Guitar Center pedal du jour you could buy. You want to use equipment that is inspiring to play and provides the least amount of limitation to the user ... so that the fun can come forth, and more attention can be paid to playing the guitar instead of having to fight to dial in sounds with knobs. Learning more about music in general provides less limitation so that your own creative voice can flow forth from your soul ... making you a better songwriter, composer, improviser ... whatever your bag is.

It just makes you a better musician overall in my opinion.

Hope that helps!

Doc 8)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:59 am
by Eskimo_Joe
DocRock wrote:Hi Matt,

Well, I'm conservatory-educated ... so my opinions about these sorts of things are firmly rooted in the "knowledge is power" camp.

That's not to say that everyone should enroll in conservatory and get a music degree ... far from it. But even private lessons from a competent teacher can take you miles ahead.

It's just that you'd be amazed at the things you could achieve when you know what you're doing. It's like learning a martial art in that it's also a discipline that gives strength and balance. Not only does writing your own music become easier, but learning pieces becomes a breeze because your ear becomes further in tune with your mind and vice versa. I play mostly in cover bands these days, and my musical knowledge and understanding has made it a breeze for me to learn literally scores of songs. Everything is just so much easier in general.

It's like the same reason you'd spend the extra money on top-end gear like BJF pedals, instead of whatever Guitar Center pedal du jour you could buy. You want to use equipment that is inspiring to play and provides the least amount of limitation to the user ... so that the fun can come forth, and more attention can be paid to playing the guitar instead of having to fight to dial in sounds with knobs. Learning more about music in general provides less limitation so that your own creative voice can flow forth from your soul ... making you a better songwriter, composer, improviser ... whatever your bag is.

It just makes you a better musician overall in my opinion.

Hope that helps!

Doc 8)


Thanks Doc! I'm sold. How should I approach filling in the gaps?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:54 am
by DocRock
Hi Matt,

I'm glad you asked. The best guitarist in STL (IMO) gives private lessons literally walking distance from where you live in Soulard. He's also a good friend of mine.

If you're interested in pursuing that route, PM me and I'll get you his contact info.

Cheers,

Doc :D

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:19 pm
by murkat
After 30 odd years..... They know me more than I know them.... :shock:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:17 pm
by Cobra
Who cares... Notes are notes...
It's not so much what notes you're playing, it's more about how you play them...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:25 pm
by EyeFly
DocRock wrote:Hi Matt,

I'm glad you asked. The best guitarist in STL (IMO) gives private lessons literally walking distance from where you live in Soulard. He's also a good friend of mine.

If you're interested in pursuing that route, PM me and I'll get you his contact info.

Cheers,

Doc :D


Doc,

You have any recommendations and/or instructor connections in upstate SC or east TN.
STL is just too far to drive....

cork

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:46 pm
by cabo
I always thought the important notes were the ones we knew not to play .
:wink:
great thing about learning music is that is seems an endless process.
I do feel it pays to know where notes are at so you dont have to think about it, allows one to help fully express themselves. also easier to play by feel and ear.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:30 am
by DocRock
Cobra wrote:Who cares... Notes are notes...
It's not so much what notes you're playing, it more about how you play them...


True enough, but I still think that knowing what you're doing can only help.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:02 pm
by DocRock
EyeFly wrote:
DocRock wrote:Hi Matt,

I'm glad you asked. The best guitarist in STL (IMO) gives private lessons literally walking distance from where you live in Soulard. He's also a good friend of mine.

If you're interested in pursuing that route, PM me and I'll get you his contact info.

Cheers,

Doc :D


Doc,

You have any recommendations and/or instructor connections in upstate SC or east TN.
STL is just too far to drive....

cork


Sorry, cork ... wish I could help you, but I don't have any contacts out in your neck of the woods. :(

Best,

Doc :)