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PANTHERs are scary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:58 am
by rockeroo
Has anyone tried the JHS Panther delay? I just got mine in the mail and have not been able to give a full test drive yet, but I think this has a lot of potential... Very curious for thoughts from anyone who has tried it.

Cheers!

Re: PANTHERs are scary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:03 am
by thesjkexperience
No, but I did have a face to face wild grizzly encounter at Glacier National Park! I am truely lucky to be alive :wtf:

I do not want to knock the pedal, but the builder is known for his clones, so what is the Panther based on? I will check it out.

I am still trying to get comfortable using the Strymon Timeline! I love what it does and can do as an ambient/textural tool, but I think it might be too much sometimes.

Re: PANTHERs are scary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:18 am
by cajone5
Never tried the Panther and tend to shy away from JHS in general due to bad press but quite a few folks do really seem to dig their work. Would love to hear more of what you think of it.

thesjkexperience wrote:I am still trying to get comfortable using the Strymon Timeline! I love what it does and can do as an ambient/textural tool, but I think it might be too much sometimes.


Yep -- had one and dumped it quick. WAY too much going on where I had a hard time doing anything worthwhile with it beyond what a simple delay can do. I'd rather not tweak forever -- I just want a nice sounding delay that I can dial in on the fly. I actually dislike every Strymon I've tried (El Cap, Timeline, Bluesky) for this exact reason -- they tried to cram too many features in the box and made it difficult to use without exhaustive practice and tweaking. Give me a simple pedal that sounds good and I'll take that over one with unlimited tweaking options that can be made to sound great (at great effort)

Re: PANTHERs are scary

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:29 pm
by thesjkexperience
cajone5 wrote:Never tried the Panther and tend to shy away from JHS in general due to bad press but quite a few folks do really seem to dig their work. Would love to hear more of what you think of it.

thesjkexperience wrote:I am still trying to get comfortable using the Strymon Timeline! I love what it does and can do as an ambient/textural tool, but I think it might be too much sometimes.


Yep -- had one and dumped it quick. WAY too much going on where I had a hard time doing anything worthwhile with it beyond what a simple delay can do. I'd rather not tweak forever -- I just want a nice sounding delay that I can dial in on the fly. I actually dislike every Strymon I've tried (El Cap, Timeline, Bluesky) for this exact reason -- they tried to cram too many features in the box and made it difficult to use without exhaustive practice and tweaking. Give me a simple pedal that sounds good and I'll take that over one with unlimited tweaking options that can be made to sound great (at great effort)


I had the original one of these and this new model is supposed to fix what I didn't care for about it. http://proguitarshop.com/tc-electronic- ... delay.html PGS has a coupon to get it for $209 and I might have to try it out. It is really easy to adjust, has a few presets, reverse, ducking and digital/analog/tape tones. It might even do a dotted 8th note, but I could never read the icons. I could shoehorn another pedal on my board with the Nova as well.

But, I do really like the Ice and Swell settings on the Timeline which the Nova does not have. Strymon did release all the preset settings on a pdf and I am leaving 0 - 49 alone and am doing my own presets from 50 - 99. The tricky part is I may use all amp distortion and a SBEQ after the Timeline which needs different settings verses when I use dirt before delay. Add in using a dirty amp and a dirt pedal and getting exact sounds at any of the three settings to agree.

Re: PANTHERs are scary

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:57 pm
by rockeroo
Well... tried the Panther, and I must say that a lot of my feelings going into the demo were centered around hype. I had heard great things about this delay from some friends and (of course) from JHS, so I wanted to take it for a spin. It has many interesting features that present a variety of options at the disposal of the user (i.e. switchable effects loop, tap tempo w/ subdivision, modulation, a dry out, etc.). These tools made the Panther very desirable for me as I like having the option of doing a variety of things with my rig.

After testing the Panther delay, I was surprised to find the functions more limited than I imagined to be. The adjustment knobs on the Panther were somewhat truncated in terms of their range of use-ability ... the number of repeats possible ... the degree the mix knob mixes ... the depth of the modulation ... these shortcomings were disappointing to me. When I compare this delay to others I own, I feel as if I have more freedom. This is not to say the Panther does the things it does poorly, because it certainly does them well. Rather, I wish it did more of those things. In short, the Panther is not for me, but I think it would be a great, simple to use, high quality delay for many people. I require more functionality (in terms of the range of the functions) than the Panther offers. I think the build quality, tonal qualities and sex appeal of the Panther are great.

I may be interested in selling if anyone decides they need/want to take a crack at it.

Thanks, gents.

Cheers.

Re: PANTHERs are scary

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:04 pm
by thesjkexperience
Thanks for the review! I have always been a bit cautious about that pedal company and have heard their long term quality isn't stellar.