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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby thesjkexperience » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:06 am

melodichaotic wrote:
thesjkexperience wrote:I actually remember trying to figure out the phonograph. I once took a pin and poked it through the small end of a paper cone (8.5 x 11" sheet) and putting the pin in the grooves. Damn if it didn't sound like a Victrola! :shock:

Now that I am older I can see how a squeezed crystal could improve fidelity, but Edison was quite the guy to figure it all out. :notworthy

I liked the spiral of the old Capitol Beatles 45s best.


Yeah, I've been to the Edison museum...talk about amazing putting yourself back in the day and coming up with that--genius.

You mean the orange and white spiral??


You bet! My older cousin would let me have his old 45s because he had them on 33 1/3. I liked the Capitol label better than Apple. I do vaguely remember another trippy label (40 years ago), but I know the LPs all had boring, uptight designs. But, about that time my Dad bought a quadraphonic system and you couldn't see anything under the tinted plastic lid of the turntable. I was back a few years ago and saw with adult eyes what a joke his system was!

When the twins are older I am going to bring back the vinyl and see what the fuss is about. If, that is, my LPs are in playable shape!
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby TCauble » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:52 am

It was when my grandmother first played me a copy of Exile On Main Street by the Rolling Stones. Every since then it's been a lot of different things that keeps me wanting to play!
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby hawaii121 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:25 pm

"[b]I just read Marty's threads and so much of it mirrors the PM I sent you.
Perhaps we were cloned in different hemispheres!
For the "old dogs" who don't know how to play songs all the way through,
Joe Walsh's advice was gold for learning new tricks:
"Get every Beatles album.
Learn to play every song by heart.
Then go listen to Crosby Stills and Nash.
Ignore what Stills and Nash are singing,
listen to Crosby.The elusive 4th."

Spot on advice Simon... Being one of the afore mentioned "old dogs" (lol). I feel the need to explain myself a little more. I guess what I really mean is that I haven't made it a priority to learn cover stuff in these last couple of years getting back into playing. I played for 4 hours on Saturday night with a group of guys and, with the exception of two songs, we expanded original material and just let the music flow. I still do sit down and learn things through and I do find value in doing it, because it helps me steal riffs and ideas for my own stuff and I'm still thinking about that persona I mentioned ( :lol: ). But at the same time, I definitely don't have a big vocabulary with cover stuff (unless you like The Cult as I think I played way too much of their stuff when I was younger!). Ultimately, I am slowly trying to build my way to being the player that I feel I let go because of bad decisions and LOTS of beer :roll: . Instead of doing everything by ear, I've started in roads to learning my theory and becoming a player with more depth.

At this point, I really love playing at home and getting together with others in the studio at loud volumes :laughing4 . I haven't really had a calling to do much more than that. I think that might all change when I done with this last round of grad school and have more time. For now it's cool and I live vicariously through all of you guys!
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby strings2wood » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:07 pm

hawaii121 wrote:"[b]I just read Marty's threads and so much of it mirrors the PM I sent you.
Perhaps we were cloned in different hemispheres!
For the "old dogs" who don't know how to play songs all the way through,
Joe Walsh's advice was gold for learning new tricks:
"Get every Beatles album.
Learn to play every song by heart.
Then go listen to Crosby Stills and Nash.
Ignore what Stills and Nash are singing,
Listen to Crosby. The elusive 4th."

Spot on advice Simon... Being one of the afore mentioned "old dogs" (lol). I feel the need to explain myself a little more. I guess what I really mean is that I haven't made it a priority to learn cover stuff in these last couple of years getting back into playing. I played for 4 hours on Saturday night with a group of guys and, with the exception of two songs, we expanded original material and just let the music flow. I still do sit down and learn things through and I do find value in doing it, because it helps me steal riffs and ideas for my own stuff and I'm still thinking about that persona I mentioned ( :lol: ). But at the same time, I definitely don't have a big vocabulary with cover stuff (unless you like The Cult as I think I played way too much of their stuff when I was younger!). Ultimately, I am slowly trying to build my way to being the player that I feel I let go because of bad decisions and LOTS of beer :roll: . Instead of doing everything by ear, I've started in roads to learning my theory and becoming a player with more depth.

At this point, I really love playing at home and getting together with others in the studio at loud volumes :laughing4 . I haven't really had a calling to do much more than that. I think that might all change when I done with this last round of grad school and have more time. For now it's cool and I live vicariously through all of you guys!


Hey Donnel,
Any road is valid.
Jamming, recording, writing, playing in a small bar or large festival.
It's all good and Joe Walsh's advice is applicable to ANY of those
or those who were inspired by the:
- fame, money, chix, cars, drugs -

and I dare say Joe nailed them better along with the playing. :laughing7

I think what he said about Crosby can enlighten more to what Joe Walsh said was the "ghost” element.
It can shape how you listen to things and can actually bring a different approach to what you play,
when you record and the requirement is specific, or you get asked to play with a different artist at a gig.

Eric Johnson said everyone goes through someone else and so did he to evolve his own sound.
In his instructional DVD he peels off all the players who influenced him from Clapton's Cream Days-
Hendrix and even Chet Atkins- as he's showing you how to roll off the harp like harmonics that Tommy Emmanuel
put in his sonic arsenal. Speaking of which, I got a great PM from Marty
who was fortunate enough to get to a really small gig he did and got up close and personal.
When I read Marty’s influences, I think many were similar to mine.
But if I listen to Marty’s clips- then I realize how good a player he is with his own voice.
I also love EVH's radio interview (which can be found on YouTube) where he's saying he learnt the "Crossroads” solo off by heart.
When asked to show/ prove it...he just peels it off note for note.

Pete (PJ) and I went to an Albert Lee clinic recently and I was surprised to hear that he doesn't read.
He said in early sessions he was called in for,
he'd sneak over to the piano player and ask him to play the part he had just been given-
and was memorizing it as the piano player played it!
I figure that's a well trained ear!

We're a hybrid of who we came through (as this thread shows) while trying to find our own "voice."
I'll bet Lars (Huckleboogie), Donner, PJ, Bobby D, Marty, Bill,
could pick who some of the influences of the players they mentioned,
because of the way those guys played or sound
like the influences they channel in their playing.
e.g. you can here John Mayer chasing SRV, Mark Knopfler will sometimes give glimpses of Hank Marvin etc.

Bill's thread was a great idea
whether you came through influences
or were "inspired by their overall scene,"
and play, write, record,or just rant.

I’d like to hear what other musicians people listened to!!!!
Andy Summers did a few years of classical,
listened to Coltrane, Ornette Colman, funk etc.
that would be another angle to the thread-
i.e. people other than guitarists you listen/ ed to as well as guitar influences :idea:
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby melodichaotic » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:53 pm

Most excellent points Simon! :salute

Yeah, I know that instructional Eric Johnson video well--clear and well defined influences(or as Eric pronounces it: in-FLU-ence) :laughing7 , but he was a big inspiration from the late 80's, well before "Cliffs of Dover"--back then it was "Zap", and yes, the Austin City Limits DVD of him from that time period is INSPIRED AND REQUIRED for everyone--he was tearing it up HIS way, while still in the thick of spandex, mascara, and the high hair of the late '80's metal silliness.
Also required IMO, is Stevie Ray's "Live at the El Mucumbo"...he may have been partying then, but his playing is BLISTERING--I can't put that video on without watching the whole thing.

Yeah, as for influences of influences, it's funny that Eddie quotes Clapton as his main influence, yet I more easily hear more of a Ritchie Blackmore influence..with his angular, punctual lines, and classical influence.

There is a lot of Albert Collins in Stevie Ray on the surface, but Stevie dug deeper--I saw him with Jeff Beck in '88--great performance of course, but the surprise shocker was in '89 or '90 when at the Beacon Theater, he was an unannounced 2ND opener for "Living Colour" of all bands--it was just him with a Deluxe Reverb I believe, a chair, and a mic just for greeting the audience and for about 40 minutes just sat and play jazz chordal melody and Wes inspired octaves that was just mind blowing...here's this whole other side to him that you never heard--it was fantastic.

Other musicians? For me absolutely Coltrane and Ornette Coleman--I listen to a lot of World Music..Celtic Harp to Korean Kayagum--Love Sitar and Tabla drums(thank you George and Jimmy), etc--
whatever sounds fresh, inspired, and interesting--LOVE Art Tatum--stupid amazing playing and Scott Joplin music--of course many of the Classical composers---Harp players--YES! What awesome timbre and texture going on there.
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby strings2wood » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:27 am

melodichaotic wrote:Most excellent points Simon! :salute

Yeah, I know that instructional Eric Johnson video well--clear and well defined influences(or as Eric pronounces it: in-FLU-ence) :laughing7 , but he was a big inspiration from the late 80's, well before "Cliffs of Dover"--back then it was "Zap", and yes, the Austin City Limits DVD of him from that time period is INSPIRED AND REQUIRED for everyone--he was tearing it up HIS way, while still in the thick of spandex, mascara, and the high hair of the late '80's metal silliness.
Also required IMO, is Stevie Ray's "Live at the El Mucumbo"...he may have been partying then, but his playing is BLISTERING--I can't put that video on without watching the whole thing.

Yeah, as for influences of influences, it's funny that Eddie quotes Clapton as his main influence, yet I more easily hear more of a Ritchie Blackmore influence..with his angular, punctual lines, and classical influence.

There is a lot of Albert Collins in Stevie Ray on the surface, but Stevie dug deeper--I saw him with Jeff Beck in '88--great performance of course, but the surprise shocker was in '89 or '90 when at the Beacon Theater, he was an unannounced 2ND opener for "Living Colour" of all bands--it was just him with a Deluxe Reverb I believe, a chair, and a mic just for greeting the audience and for about 40 minutes just sat and play jazz chordal melody and Wes inspired octaves that was just mind blowing...here's this whole other side to him that you never heard--it was fantastic.

Other musicians? For me absolutely Coltrane and Ornette Coleman--I listen to a lot of World Music..Celtic Harp to Korean Kayagum--Love Sitar and Tabla drums(thank you George and Jimmy), etc--
whatever sounds fresh, inspired, and interesting--LOVE Art Tatum--stupid amazing playing and Scott Joplin music--of course many of the Classical composers---Harp players--YES! What awesome timbre and texture going on there.


Image = inspiration.
"Cafe El Mocambo" always does it.
Opens with "Testify" at a ball tearing pace-
love the key modulation he sneaks in as well.
He's bending strings (most couldn't move) a country mile-
-doesn't even re-tune till about the 4th/5th song,
where he casually mid solo reaches and tweaks-
and justs keeps the pedal to the floor.
The guitar surfing is quite out there-
Gotta say while he's almost eating his cigarette during Lenny-
he's looking mighty pale/ grey in complexion-
(not sure which side of the tightrope he was walking in that time).

As an opener to Living Colour........
well guitar love sometimes just rears it's ugly head
to create a cult of personality.
Killer double and great story.

Left field inspiration....Ella Fitzgerald's timing and velvet runs
as well as her ability to really let a song swing in a good way.
She's the Keith Richards of phrasing-
sometimes putting it where you least expect it-
which is why I love Stewart Copeland too!
Outlandos Dru' :laughing7 mmour.
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby bsic » Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:26 am

Hey Marty and Simon,


Great call on el mocambo-- I WORE that OUT! Still gives me chills to watch it. Voodoo chile just amazing... The whole thing. Those big .13's on there and his vibrato looks like he's playing 8's..

He's a great example on how one can take LOTS of different influences and mix them together to form something truly unique.. And still get all the sex drugs fame etc :). He spent countless hours learning and studying the great blues masters, Hendrix, jeff beck....
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby strings2wood » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:43 am

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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby bsic » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:25 am

Ha -- you missed this pic Simon!
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Re: What person/band motivated you to pick up the guitar?

Postby hawaii121 » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:54 pm

single song that makes me want to be a better player - Lindsey Buckingham playing "Big Love" live - sounds like 3 guitars and he is doing vocals on top of it all.
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