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Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:01 am
by BJF
thesjkexperience wrote:Bjorn, some of my favorite Fuzz Faces had one Germanium and one Silicon transistor though I don't know the order. A favorite was the Foxrox Hybrid CC as GE somewhat smoothed the Si and the Si tightened up the flabby low end that GE often has.

Any word on what you plan to do with the DOOD Dynamic Orange OD? From the description in the library it sounds like it would be a great match for small and mid sized tweed amps that are just past the edge of breakup. I liked the old blue Mad Prof pedal, but it just wasn't as musical sounding as the BJFEs which is why my first bjfe is still on my board 10 years later (EGDM).


Hi Scott,

I hear you and yes some of my favourite fuzzes through the times have been composite silicon and germanium.

Oh the DOOD, I made just a few now and then and Deluxe Guitar Imports in Australia order one now and then
Actually because they wanted to mainly have models that are not present in any other line I design for like Barefoot, One Control, Mad Professor Ltd

Yes I know there were differences and the production model did not sound like the protos I made.
Note that not so long ago I updated the circuit for MP Sky blue OD to sound more like the DOOD.
The older version as favoured by TAG is more congested in the low midrange and does not have the angel choir singing :whistle

Have fun
BJ

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:02 am
by BJF
Hi there,


How the Fuzz 1711 and Fuzz 109 and many more in the research differ:

Actually they do a whole lot and I was going to make a few Fuzz109’s but the bag of BC109C’s ( very low noise, high gain, low voltage audio transistor for preamps et.c) I had had disappeared so as I anyway wanted to complete what I had started I checked out some other transistors I had in drawers and thought of trying 2N1711 ( medium power,medium gain switching- and driver-transistor) and those have about as much as common that they both are NPN and in metal can…

The circuit had to be revised to let the 2N1711 bias correctly for what I wanted and also while you can do certain noise reduction things with transistors those vary from type to type and as an example one that makes 2N1711 drop a little noise makes the F109 oscillate ;) I am saying when you use a part there can certain things you can do.

Sound wise and on musical level things could be broken down like this

The Square Wave is a resurrection with some modifications to a fuzz I used a whole lot live and in studios in the late 1980’s- it can sound almost behaved with volume control on guitar turned down a little and then sound like a disaster when volume control is on full- I always enjoyed having that on dial ;)

The Fuzz 109 came about as I was building fuzzes and listening to Hendrix for hours on end and as I was making the Sparkle Faces it struck me that while close there would be something else I’d hear in the Hendrix fuzz sounds and there’s these sounds where he gets a fuzz sound that more sounds like a distorting amplifier in that more organic for lack of better word than distortion boxes and this would be a sound I have wanted to have since I first heard it. So I set about making the Fuzz 109 using silicon transistors as it struck me that the recordings I was listening to would have been made with the latest most likely of fuzz faces.
Now there are some high order distortions that occour in the BC109C that is not present in say the 2N1308’s and I recalled some techniques to reduce that and in the process total noise level and I feel the resulting sound and behavior makes something useful to me and a sound I could use any day.
This is about sounds that woke my desire to play guitar and that have lingered through the years- I could think of sounds of disaster but this is not it this time.

The Sparkle Face I wanted to make with more modern germanium transistors and for a close to linear design that would eventually overload and in that making a sound from seemingly clean to heavy fuzz and doing that gradually- there are of course some interesting ’odd' things that would then be dialed out, such that would be viewed as the sound of fuzz and that make sound gate and spit and duck- while I in later years enjoy such things too I could think of circuits to more fully explore the noises.

When I first saw fuzzes and first played some fuzzes back in the late 70’s I found most of them limiting to the sounds I wanted and that I had heard on recordings and frankly many of the amps back then also had a less inspiring distortion and these great sounds I could hear were only for the stars - such were the times.

Therefore when making the Tone bender Mark 1 there was something specific I wanted control over in terms of how it plays and thusly it would not sound totally ’vintage’ but have a sound that one out of one hundred fuzzes could have had in a music store in 1966.
Instructions and schematic on that coming soon and for the Bone Benders made for this research I used either AC127 or NTE103A.

This said I can see many shades of fuzz tones and so I also wanted to try the Tone bender Mark II and really that is a circuit similar to a fuzz face albeit with a preamp and it is capable of tremendous sustain- and while making that I was thing about when my mother in law was sent out by my eldest brother in law to find a fuzz wha one with a long tone ;)
The Bone Bender mark II also uses AC127 or NTE103A.
Some of these have heavy leakage and some less so I sorted those that had high leakage to be used as first stage and thus those bias at about 3V8 to 4V7 ;) right in the middle of making a nice linear amplifier that will saturate symmetrically. Those with lower leakage I used for the composite current input amplifier that follows the input stage and allow biasing with a trimmer.

A musician’s approach to biasing fuzz pedals

Here’s how I’d set up the bias for any of the above fuzz pedals ( except Square wave)

Set a gutar amplifier up for about 1/4WW to 1 W and hook up the fuzz pedal and connect an electric guitar ( I’d usually use a Telecaster- something single coil is a little easier to work with ) with volume on full.

Then listen to hum as produced through the amp and adjust trimmer for loudest hum and then turn down volume control on guitar slightly and listen and adjust if necessary to make hum gradually go up and down while turning the volume control on guitar.

The hum that is caused by guitar picking up magnetic fields makes for a test signal that can be used to set up performance of the fuzz.

Note how sound changes if bias is slightly of and cutting out sound…

At your service
BJ

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:18 pm
by Baggy
Hi there again,
just thought i would report back after now spending a bit of time with my diy sparkle face. Well first of all I would just like to say thank you to Bjorn for letting us have a play with this, it has been so enjoyable and I have had a smile on my face every time I clicked the pedal,

To say this is a fuzz face really doesn't do it justice, the saturation knob really opens it up to different sounds. If the saturation knob is all ccw and the fuzz ccw and the volume at approx 12, this turns the sparkle face into a lovely fat sounding boost that really lifts the lows and mids of all three of my guitars (fender 72 tele thinline, PRS Mira 2011, 2016 gibson flying v trad). Now with the different levels of saturation and fuzz the tone varies from a fat low gain overdrive, to a big muff, fuzz face all the way to almost like a fuzz factory but more controlled.

The thing that really got me was how clear the notes and picking can be heard even in between chords. No sound of mushyness anywhere. This I would say is consistent all though the fuzz and saturation scale until all is at max (this isn't where i normally play so not much playing was done here)

my favourite combination was with the SHOD. It shines when played into this pedal, they really do compliment each other very well. The highs of the SHOD and the lows of the SF really sound lush to my ears (My amp is a vox ac4c1), unfortunately i wasn't to keen on pairing it with the Bearfoot Model G I have, kinda too much of a good thing going on with them two pedals together. I also played the MGMV into the sparkle face, that is magic sounding, very Jimi-esc especially with the coil Tapped 57' pickups on my V.

I recommend anyone to have a go at building this circuit if they have the time to do so. It is very rewarding and great fun to play about with. The only hitch i had with the layout I posted was that I didn't leave enough length on the capacitor legs, so i couldn't lay them down. So when i first made the pedal up they impeded the lid. I'll probably replace the caps later on myself but for anyone else its just something to be aware of. Other than that it was a straight forward build.

Hope this helps with anyone else considering getting or building the Sparkle face, It wont be coming off my board anytime soon :)

Bill

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:51 am
by zhivago
Excellent review, Bill!

Sound like you git some real cool sounds out of the SF! :glasses

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:17 am
by BJF
Hi there,

Good job Bill!

I have continued the fuzz research with more models that eventually shall also be DIY once I get back at workshop.
At the moment I am in STL making plans for more Bearfoot pedals


At your service
BJ

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:58 am
by Donner
While I had this whole range of Bjorn new fuzzes, I made some videos I hope will show the differences and applications possible .... these all sound really great and I was really suprised how much I loved the Bone Bender mk 1 ....



Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:01 am
by zhivago
I saw your vids on Youtube as you were posting them Donner, you got some excellent sounds there.

I love your dog as well, by the way :glasses

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:26 am
by melodichaotic
Yes, thanks Don for doing all those demos/comps...I certainly appreciated that. it's nice to hear them side by side and through the DR sounded pretty huge(understatement)...excellent.
Ha, doggie definitely wanted his own bone to bend;)

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:29 am
by Baggy
Really surprised no one elese has tried to build this and report back on what they think?????? I'm still having lots of fun with it, using it a lot as a dirty boost.

Re: >>> Sparkle Face Research Project <<<

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:35 am
by Donner
Glad you guys dug the vids --- I made a couple more and there is some video of Bjorn talking about fuzz in general coming up ...... and yes this is why the DIY community does not threaten the pre made one ... most people dont actually have time to make their own copy , but it is alot of fun and educational for those that do ........ 8)