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Seeking dirt recommendations for a Selmer amp

PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:36 pm
by rustywire
I'm in the market for a dirt pedal to use with a Treble N Bass mk II.
Its Normal voicing emphasizes the upper mids like a Marshall or Vox...with its own thing going on...and the Bass channel emphasizes bass and lower mids like the Bassman it's derived from...with a bit of Orange flavor, possibly from the Partridge transformers.

After a year of gear hunting, my mainstay dirt pedals are a reverse-graphic v6 Muff and Fulltone '69; as both satisfy different flavors of grime while retaining the naked, dynamic touch-sensitivity of plugging guitar directly into amp and interactive vol-knob response. I really like the way these stack with the amp set both clean & breaking up.

I'm looking for something that shines both solo and stacked with the other dirt for extra saturation and variety. Currently using a Telenordia TF-1 for this, wanting more grit and have been eyeballing various BBODs and Germanium CAFs. Am I barking up the right tree?

I also use a Harmonic Percolator from time to time...here's a recent *pedalboard* shot:

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Thanks in advance for much appreciated advice and guidance; internet searches have not turned up any relevant results.

Re: Seeking dirt recommendations for a Selmer amp

PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:33 am
by MBT74
Selmers are Vox-ish right? Maybe a Crowther Hotcake is a good starting point since they play well with Vox amps.

By the way, love that Big Muff!

Re: Seeking dirt recommendations for a Selmer amp

PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:43 am
by DocRock
That Selmer sounds like a really cool amp. I'd also consider a Bearfoot EGDM or Model H.

Re: Seeking dirt recommendations for a Selmer amp

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:25 pm
by rustywire
Thanks for the recommendations, you two. Was hoping for a bit more guidance (considering the views count) but no worries.
Wound up grabbing an EGDM last week, which finally arrived Wednesday.
It's my first Bearfoot pedal (Not BJF, I had a BPB) and I'm really impressed with the bang-for-buck.

I'm enjoying it more by itself than stacked with the FF, Muff, HP.
Very nice response, and the Voice+Treble controls are very useful.
It doesn't clean up as much as I was anticipating, via vol knob...it reminds me of a D*A*M Drag'N'Fly in that regard.
Maybe I'm just spoiled by the '69...

The pros far outweigh the cons but I don't think it's the right fit, as much is left to be desired...there's a slight muffled quality at the lower gain settings.
I'm going to hang onto it for a bit longer, especially when I have a new guitar on the horizon...an Epi Casino w/single p90.

But I'm still browsing the BF line...and do know I want a hybrid transistor or germanium-based design.
Which of the pedals fit this criteria? Obviously the CAF, but how about the DRD, SYOD (Marshall version) and Honey Beest?

I use the Normal channel. And yeah, it's the homewrecking amp that broke up my Fender relationship. :whistle

Re: Seeking dirt recommendations for a Selmer amp

PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:09 am
by rustywire
OK Tried running it [EGDM] at 18V and that fixed just about all but my stacking complaints. And much fun was had.
The first 2 days were spent at 9 and 12v, but 18 really makes the difference; things seem to open up and the response of the Drive knob's first half is now as usable as the higher settings.
Excessive fretting noise on the strings, an annoyance I forgot to mention, seem to be tamed @18v as well. :pedallove

Still curious about the other colors/flavors I mentioned...and their stackability within my rig.

Re: Seeking dirt recommendations for a Selmer amp

PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:38 am
by DocRock
Yeah, those higher voltages can definitely do a lot to open things up.

I think the real key to this stacking business lies in making sure you don't have too much gain dialed into any one unit. This seems most important with regard to whichever dirt comes last in your chain, as that seems to have the greatest overall effect on what your amplifier will end up seeing. I tend to prefer my EGDM on its own, although I have found that keeping the gain level under control, whilst combining with a low gainer (such as the Honeybee) tends to work best.

As to your fuzz questions, I'd say it depends more on what types of sounds you want than component choice. That said, I think Pink Purple Fuzz could address your "hybrid" desires. Candy Apple Fuzz still takes it for me in terms of overall versatility, yet there is something really special and unique about PPF. The silver (silicon) version of CAF has more up front-ness about it, whereas the gold (germanium) has a touch more warmth and organic-ness to the tone. The CAF is my desert island fuzz because it can be dialed in to sound like so many things. If I really had to choose one for myself, I tend to lean towards the gold; but the silver is where its at if you really want more teeth. PPF is great because it really has the playability of a really fine overdrive, while still having the sonic characteristics of a fuzz. It kinda reminds me of the sound you'd get with a traditional vintage fuzz (like a Fuzzface) through an already overdriven amp. I think of Eric Johnson and Jimi Hendrix when I play PPF. I think of Jimmy Page and Neil Young when I play CAF, though the octavia setting will give you a great Hendrix-type thing along the length of the fretboard, not just above the 12th fret.

Hope some of this helps!