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Where do you run your Honey Bees nature control and why ?

Donner wrote:Where do you run your Honey Bees nature control and why ?

I feel like I'm in the "typical" user camp here -- I run mine at 10:30 or so to get some full bottom end and sag. Every so often I'll also run it fully clockwise for a tighter brighter sound but more often than not it stays at 10:30

cajone5 wrote:

Donner wrote:Where do you run your Honey Bees nature control and why ?

I feel like I'm in the "typical" user camp here -- I run mine at 10:30 or so to get some full bottom end and sag. Every so often I'll also run it fully clockwise for a tighter brighter sound but more often than not it stays at 10:30

I only have a Deluxe Bee, and I run N at about the same...maybe closer to 9:30/10...sometimes 9, and although mine is a bit darker sounding(which I like), I set the BPB at unity gain, and there is that slight(and very sweet) upper frequency "lift" that it gives, which adds just enough presence to redefine the tone.

Yeah, like Cliff mentioned, for the same benefits for the bottom end and sag...and that to me is where the Bee can work it's magic best.

And yes, the upper end swing of N is great too for the brightening and tightening...really all the range is so useable.

I would further say that if the Bee was one of your main drives, that whether or not you boosted the front end for more power and compression, it would be cool say hypothetically, have N set lower for the bottom end/sag thing as rhythm, and have a pre-set 2nd foot switch for an instant jump to a higher CW setting for solos.

Generally, it's either at 9 O'Clock or 3 O'Clock, depending on the guitar/song/etc.

At first, I always ran my HBOD on the brighter side (around 2:00), because I did not have another mild drive option. Now that I have one, I run the HBOD around 10:30 to sag the tone and warm up my strat.

The HBOD is a winner.

Between 10:00 and noon depending on the amp. My Victoria 5e3 tweed deluxe has a lot of bottom already, so I set it at noon. My only complaint is that I can't get rid of the top end without adding a ton of low end which I may not want. I do like the Focus knob on the MP SHOD because I can drop the tremble down, but unfortunately, it also kills the gain. The SBEQ treble knob won't fix the situation either.

Has anyone else noticed that the later BJFEs are brighter than the earliest models? I don't know if it is true, but with all the BJFEs that have run through here that seems to be the trend. Has anyone compared the earlier Dyna Reds to the later see-through DRDs? I keep staying with the EGDM as it is about the only pedal, that Bjorn makes, that I can adjust the top end and bring it down a bit.

thesjkexperience wrote:Between 10:00 and noon depending on the amp. My Victoria 5e3 tweed deluxe has a lot of bottom already, so I set it at noon. My only complaint is that I can't get rid of the top end without adding a ton of low end which I may not want. I do like the Focus knob on the MP SHOD because I can drop the tremble down, but unfortunately, it also kills the gain. The SBEQ treble knob won't fix the situation either.

Has anyone else noticed that the later BJFEs are brighter than the earliest models? I don't know if it is true, but with all the BJFEs that have run through here that seems to be the trend. Has anyone compared the earlier Dyna Reds to the later see-through DRDs? I keep staying with the EGDM as it is about the only pedal, that Bjorn makes, that I can adjust the top end and bring it down a bit.

The EGDM trimmer is truly special. I probably could not use the pedal the same without it.

Another thing... it is difficult to get used to "open" pedals. Most drives are compressed to a point where the treble generally needs boosting to cut through mixes. When I first played Bjorn's stuff, I realized the compression was not there (intentionally, I presume). This attribute impressed me. I work often as a sound tech, and it is easier to deal with and mold a sound that has the "open" characteristic. You can cut what needs to be cut and boost what is lacking. What I have to remember is that there is not more treble in Bjorn's pedals; rather, there is more in all tonal spectrums (in comparison to other devices), so the tone must be shaped (if desired) accordingly.

As for certain production models being brighter/darker than others ... I know not. I have only owned/heard the ones I have in my possession.

::Aside:: It would be nice to share my BJF love with a SoCal'er or two.

Cheers.

The Nature knob on mine tends to be somewhere in the 1-2 o'clock range, as I tend to want to match my bypass EQ most of the time when I use drive pedals. Of course, it could change depending on the amp(s) I'm using. Right now, it's mostly Dr. Zs.

rockeroo wrote:

thesjkexperience wrote:Between 10:00 and noon depending on the amp. My Victoria 5e3 tweed deluxe has a lot of bottom already, so I set it at noon. My only complaint is that I can't get rid of the top end without adding a ton of low end which I may not want. I do like the Focus knob on the MP SHOD because I can drop the tremble down, but unfortunately, it also kills the gain. The SBEQ treble knob won't fix the situation either.

Has anyone else noticed that the later BJFEs are brighter than the earliest models? I don't know if it is true, but with all the BJFEs that have run through here that seems to be the trend. Has anyone compared the earlier Dyna Reds to the later see-through DRDs? I keep staying with the EGDM as it is about the only pedal, that Bjorn makes, that I can adjust the top end and bring it down a bit.

The EGDM trimmer is truly special. I probably could not use the pedal the same without it.

Another thing... it is difficult to get used to "open" pedals. Most drives are compressed to a point where the treble generally needs boosting to cut through mixes. When I first played Bjorn's stuff, I realized the compression was not there (intentionally, I presume). This attribute impressed me. I work often as a sound tech, and it is easier to deal with and mold a sound that has the "open" characteristic. You can cut what needs to be cut and boost what is lacking. What I have to remember is that there is not more treble in Bjorn's pedals; rather, there is more in all tonal spectrums (in comparison to other devices), so the tone must be shaped (if desired) accordingly.

As for certain production models being brighter/darker than others ... I know not. I have only owned/heard the ones I have in my possession.

::Aside:: It would be nice to share my BJF love with a SoCal'er or two.

Cheers.

With my set up my most substantial EQ is my SBEQ as the Swarts Tone knob is mostly a treble/presence cut and on a 5e3 it adds brightness to about 9.5, but then up to 12 it adds mids and harmonic distortion. I tend to run them hot/loud enough that they are distorting on their own, so I have to set the Tone knob to that sound, but when I kick on some pedals (like the DRD) I can't affect the top end except using the tone knobs on my guitar(s). That is easy enough, but once you get below 7 it seems to reduce gain and volume. That is why the EGDM is the only dirt pedal that has never gotten kicked off of my board as the Voice control and trim pot give me a lot of control. I just wish the MOdel HvT trimmer worked the same way, or at least as you go clockwise with the trimmer to bring the treble down a bit.

I don't think I have used a non-BJFE OD or Distortion pedal for almost two years! Actually, I did have a AnalogMan KoT and an Ethos as I had been on the list for a long time and had to hear them, but they were both sold quickly. I think I am on the list for a Timmy in December, and while I doubt it will make the board, it may be one of a two pedal combo I take to jams. I can see using my V1 MH with it. I have been having good luck with both the Snark and the new mini planet waves headstock tuners, so being able to tune before being on stage and not needing another pedal is really nice. I am trying to not use my board tuner for a week to see if I can add another BJFE or a Pumpkin Pi muff clone. I do think that Humper pedal that is going around would be a great addition as midrange is the area I would like more control of. Currently I use my Swart Atomic Boost to give the mids a kick to the amp or pedals and it is great as long as I'm not playing so loud that the noise gets too much.

thesjkexperience wrote:Between 10:00 and noon depending on the amp. My Victoria 5e3 tweed deluxe has a lot of bottom already, so I set it at noon. My only complaint is that I can't get rid of the top end without adding a ton of low end which I may not want. I do like the Focus knob on the MP SHOD because I can drop the tremble down, but unfortunately, it also kills the gain. The SBEQ treble knob won't fix the situation either.

Has anyone else noticed that the later BJFEs are brighter than the earliest models? I don't know if it is true, but with all the BJFEs that have run through here that seems to be the trend. Has anyone compared the earlier Dyna Reds to the later see-through DRDs? I keep staying with the EGDM as it is about the only pedal, that Bjorn makes, that I can adjust the top end and bring it down a bit.

Yep had both early and later HBOD's and DRD's and noticed the older ones were darker and looser and the newer brighter and tighter. I'd say both EQ's worked well though -- just depends on what you prefer.