Honey Bee Nature control

[Donner]

Between 10:00 and noon depending on the amp. My Victoria 5e3 tweed deluxe has a lot of bottom already, so I set it at noon. My only complaint is that I can't get rid of the top end without adding a ton of low end which I may not want. I do like the Focus knob on the MP SHOD because I can drop the tremble down, but unfortunately, it also kills the gain. The SBEQ treble knob won't fix the situation either.

Has anyone else noticed that the later BJFEs are brighter than the earliest models? I don't know if it is true, but with all the BJFEs that have run through here that seems to be the trend. Has anyone compared the earlier Dyna Reds to the later see-through DRDs? I keep staying with the EGDM as it is about the only pedal, that Bjorn makes, that I can adjust the top end and bring it down a bit.

Yep had both early and later HBOD's and DRD's and noticed the older ones were darker and looser and the newer brighter and tighter. I'd say both EQ's worked well though -- just depends on what you prefer.

Interesting. I have talked to a few others through PM on other subjects and this came up. Since Bjorn tunes each pedal, and we all tend to lose a bit of our hearing as we both age and play too loud, if the pedals are getting brighter for that reason. His tastes could be changing as well so who knows, but it has been mentioned that Leo Fender, while testing amps & speakers with Dick Dale, lost a lot of hearing due to an amp malfunction. I think that may be why the blackface amps are bright and before he died the guys at G&L had to change the specs on the pickups at the production level because Leo was tuning the pickups glass shatteringly bright just to get it to where it sounded good to him.

I might have to try out an old DRD some day because the one I have I can't kill the top end without killing the function of the pedal.

I think it would more likely be all the customer feedback over the years ... usually if there is an EQ change requested its for more treble control ..... and the SBEQ should give you the ability to make most of the EQ tweek requests yourself and to your whole drive chain at one time - sort of a master balancer ....

Yes the later BJF HBs and the BearFoot ones too intentionally have more open treble.

If you have a SBEQ after a HB and its still too bright you must have a really bright rig

Have you tried stacking a recent HB into an early one ?

[thesjkexperience]

I think my SBEQ is # 23, so maybe it doesn't match up well with my 2 year old Bee? I might look for earlier versions of the HBOD and DRD to see if they work better for me. Except for my Wife's Victoria Champ (depending on the speaker) I never have trouble with getting enough treble. I am rather heavy with my right hand and I think that is some of the problem. I tend to play the electric like an acoustic guitar and until a few years ago always used 11s on my Strats. Now just one Strat has 11s, but I often tune that one flat. Since getting more serious about standard tuning slide guitar I have been better with picking softer. I am also trying to go sans pick more often to try and find new things.

My guitars might be on the brighter side, but I am really sensitive to upper mid and treble frequencies and if they are musical or not. All of my amps have a single tone control and British style speakers, so I don't have the tone sculpting possibilities of many amps, but I do think less knobs on the amp equals more tone and harmonics.

65 Amps has a new amp out called the Producer and Premier Guitar did a video of it a few days ago. It has a very interesting new concept to power amps and use modern tubes. It is crazy expensive, but I think it may be a new direction we need to go considering the dropping quality of modern tubes.

[Donner]

I think my SBEQ is # 23, so maybe it doesn't match up well with my 2 year old Bee? I might look for earlier versions of the HBOD and DRD to see if they work better for me. Except for my Wife's Victoria Champ (depending on the speaker) I never have trouble with getting enough treble. I am rather heavy with my right hand and I think that is some of the problem. I tend to play the electric like an acoustic guitar and until a few years ago always used 11s on my Strats. Now just one Strat has 11s, but I often tune that one flat. Since getting more serious about standard tuning slide guitar I have been better with picking softer. I am also trying to go sans pick more often to try and find new things.

My guitars might be on the brighter side, but I am really sensitive to upper mid and treble frequencies and if they are musical or not. All of my amps have a single tone control and British style speakers, so I don't have the tone sculpting possibilities of many amps, but I do think less knobs on the amp equals more tone and harmonics.

65 Amps has a new amp out called the Producer and Premier Guitar did a video of it a few days ago. It has a very interesting new concept to power amps and use modern tubes. It is crazy expensive, but I think it may be a new direction we need to go considering the dropping quality of modern tubes.

oh yes, there are so many places to adjust EQ and response ... I finally got comfortable with my entire tone when I switched to Greenback voiced speakers and an old coily cord from guitar to board ..... that very addictive high treble/presense balance can drive you nuts after awhile and it often is very much a situation of giving your ears enough time to adjust to a rounder treble ......

I also prefer playing the living harmonics of an acoustic guitar and I think thats where my deep exploration of pedals and sound came in --- I am always looking for living dirt pedals with realistic dynamics - not just the harmonics but the dynamic EQ and Compression that you find in a good acoustic guitar, and Bjorns voicings are the closest to that feeling that Ive found..

[melodichaotic]

I also prefer playing the living harmonics of an acoustic guitar and I think thats where my deep exploration of pedals and sound came in --- I am always looking for living dirt pedals with realistic dynamics - not just the harmonics but the dynamic EQ and Compression that you find in a good acoustic guitar, and Bjorns voicings are the closest to that feeling that Ive found..

Completely relate to this...keep it completely in the analog realm and listen for the varying degrees of EQ, compression, attack and decay in acoustic guitars ranging from $300-$5000 boxed...an education in itself..after all the ideal is amplify/electrify from this starting point in ways that are hopefully congruent...albeit with a "few" other variables(hurdles).

[thesjkexperience]

I think my SBEQ is # 23, so maybe it doesn't match up well with my 2 year old Bee? I might look for earlier versions of the HBOD and DRD to see if they work better for me. Except for my Wife's Victoria Champ (depending on the speaker) I never have trouble with getting enough treble. I am rather heavy with my right hand and I think that is some of the problem. I tend to play the electric like an acoustic guitar and until a few years ago always used 11s on my Strats. Now just one Strat has 11s, but I often tune that one flat. Since getting more serious about standard tuning slide guitar I have been better with picking softer. I am also trying to go sans pick more often to try and find new things.

My guitars might be on the brighter side, but I am really sensitive to upper mid and treble frequencies and if they are musical or not. All of my amps have a single tone control and British style speakers, so I don't have the tone sculpting possibilities of many amps, but I do think less knobs on the amp equals more tone and harmonics.

65 Amps has a new amp out called the Producer and Premier Guitar did a video of it a few days ago. It has a very interesting new concept to power amps and use modern tubes. It is crazy expensive, but I think it may be a new direction we need to go considering the dropping quality of modern tubes.

oh yes, there are so many places to adjust EQ and response ... I finally got comfortable with my entire tone when I switched to Greenback voiced speakers and an old coily cord from guitar to board ..... that very addictive high treble/presense balance can drive you nuts after awhile and it often is very much a situation of giving your ears enough time to adjust to a rounder treble ......

I also prefer playing the living harmonics of an acoustic guitar and I think thats where my deep exploration of pedals and sound came in --- I am always looking for living dirt pedals with realistic dynamics - not just the harmonics but the dynamic EQ and Compression that you find in a good acoustic guitar, and Bjorns voicings are the closest to that feeling that Ive found..

Absolutely! I got into BJFE because I got sick of my OCD v4 as it sounded like a box. I bought 6 different ODs from internet retailers and after a week wasn't impressed. There was a thread about BJFE on TGP and Fugot pmed me and loaned me a HBOD and EGDM. I LOVED them! I bought the EGDM and began figuring it out. Since that purchase no other brand of od/dist has made it to the board. I don't even bother now