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Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:32 pm
by pmard
I'll second you guys with the PGC, MGMV (or DLX), and SBEQ being the infrastructure for making those toneful sounds!! :love4

My PGC haven't left the board ever since I bought it (was my 2nd BJFe), and it's almost always on like Steve's- only a mild compression.

My MGMV was also long waited and it has proven to be priceless when looking for anything from little enhancement or those thick Trowerish sounds..

And SBEQ wrapping it all up and giving the final touch..

- Just add any given BJFe drive for the job in hand and there you go..

- My SYOD twins kicked out the DRD, which had been on the board since 2006, and they have been my go to drives ever since. - So if I'd have to choose from my drives, I'd definitely cling on to the SYOD twins ( Thank you again Donnel.. :salute )


Petteri

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:44 pm
by Bobby D
yep....the PGC and SBEQ are such SLEEPERS -- on paper, it doesn't seem like they would be so essential. there's nothing really "sexy" about EQ and compression :laughing7

the MGMV was one i only got to play for a few days, and at bedroom volume, so i don't think i have had a full experience with it yet. i think maybe at stage volume it might really be a different experience.

i agree HIGHLY with the sparkling yellow.....i hope that one makes it to the MP line!

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:07 pm
by hawaii121
I'm not really a compression guy and I love the PGC. I use it with a very low compression setting like 9 or 10 o'clock. It has a thing to it that is different than but in the same spirit as using the Klon as a clean boost. It's a mo betta pedal :) no squish or loss of dynamics.

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:59 am
by Donner
Slim Henderson wrote:yep....the PGC and SBEQ are such SLEEPERS -- on paper, it doesn't seem like they would be so essential. there's nothing really "sexy" about EQ and compression :laughing7

the MGMV was one i only got to play for a few days, and at bedroom volume, so i don't think i have had a full experience with it yet. i think maybe at stage volume it might really be a different experience.

i agree HIGHLY with the sparkling yellow.....i hope that one makes it to the MP line!



yes really I think one reason so many people keep jumping between drive pedals is that they are asked to do so much - compression distortion EQ .....

if you take care of the overall compression and EQ first then the distortion pedal just has to distort ...

so if you have that wonderful slightly compressed sustaining properly EQd clean sound , then a distortion pedal is going to have a much better chance of succeeding.

its like how almost all drive pedals sound good with a warm working amp - the amp is already compressing and EQing before the pedal is engaged..... this is what the PGC and SBEQ can do to a clean amp. :thumbup:

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:16 pm
by Bobby D
if you have average amps, or have to play on a variety of rigs, having the SBE and PGC can be a BIG help.

if you have a GREAT amp, they are maybe less necessary.

but Donner got it right....i think the SBEQ and PGC put a studio kind of sheen on the guitar sound, and make whatever is in the middle sound a lot bigger and more articulate.

i have even used the SBEQ for a vocal preamp when i wanted my vocals to stand out.....and it's killer on acoustic electric guitar. i bet it would sound great on a drum machine!

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:41 pm
by thesjkexperience
But, if you are already compressing do you get that amp feel/dynamics where playing soft sounds clean and digging in sound dirty? I use the volume knob all the time on my guitars and since they are single-coils I can get a lot of great sounds. I also remember the PGC thinning my sound a bit, but that was also the time I tried the Lava solderless and those were killing things far worse! Too bad as they were nifty for cramming things really close together on your board!

My only pedal I can have trouble with is the HBOD because when I turn down I lose all the good sound. So, I moved my SBEQ to the front of the chain (see below) and have Bill's old Ruby Red at the end as a boost for my T-Bone's neck pickup and as a buffer. I use the SBEQ as a pedal booster.

They way my board is set up now sounds like Nirvana (not the band I just hate using the word Heavenly) through the BLudotone 4x10 tweed Bassman :music . It is making my combos sound like 98 pound weaklings. :joker

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:16 pm
by Donner
Right you can put the PGC after the dynamic dirt so youcan still play the pedals dirt with your pick strength and get a smooth full sound.

So HBOD into PGC would be right up your alley ....

yeah the SBEQ makes a great lead boost too - turning down the bass and treble controls gives the right mid bump...


also putting a level boost in front of a comp gives you two levels of comp as well - so by engaging the boost into the PGC you would also be increasing the compression.....in fact depending on where its set, you may just get more compression without any level boost as the comp eats the level increase and compresses harder ~ longer sustain......

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:38 pm
by thesjkexperience
Thanks Donner. I guess when PGC mania slows down I might give it another shot.

Does either the new or hw version of the Forrest Green come close to the PGC?

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:43 pm
by Donner
thesjkexperience wrote:Thanks Donner. I guess when PGC mania slows down I might give it another shot.

Does either the new or hw version of the Forrest Green come close to the PGC?


Close - yes.

but if your most concerned with retaining dynamics you may like the sustain setting on the FGC even better as it adds sustain while retaining the natural pick attack.

Re: BJFE core tonal pedals

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:32 am
by thesjkexperience
Donner wrote:
thesjkexperience wrote:Thanks Donner. I guess when PGC mania slows down I might give it another shot.

Does either the new or hw version of the Forrest Green come close to the PGC?


Close - yes.

but if your most concerned with retaining dynamics you may like the sustain setting on the FGC even better as it adds sustain while retaining the natural pick attack.


I might try that out in the short run. Will the HW or the CB be a better bet?