Quick HBOD question

[cedjazz]

What setting on the nature knob yields the most treble? I'm stacking with a MP LGW and am trying to get that "singing" modern hi gain sound, but just can't get enough high end. Also, seems somewhat boomy.

[SteveA]

Clockwise !!!! definitely. CCW will make it boomy which is great for some nice blues but not for that modern sound!

[thesjkexperience]

Which direction are you stacking? I would go LGW > HBOD. With a Strat the HBOD has the most treble at around noon, but going CCW will add bass and a bit more treble where CW drops the bass out and the top end gets less focused. Your Drive setting will influence both the amount of treble and where it is with the Volume acting about the same.

I havent had a LGW in a while, but you should try running one pedal with lots of cleaner treble and the other with lots of Drive and Volume.

I can get the sound you describe much easier with the DRD > HBOD or MH > HBOD and maybe goose that with a SBEQ at the end kicking the amp a little bit. But, then again, that is the BJFE disease

[SteveA]

Actually the bst pedal for that high gain modern sound is the CHII ! But that's another story

[bsic]

the HBOD has the most treble at around noon, but going CCW will add bass and a bit more treble where CW drops the bass out and the top end gets less focused.

Agree here. Noon is the sweet spot where you have the best balance. Going CCW boosts bass and past noon i hear more of a bass rolloff than I do a treble increase.

I'm stacking with a MP LGW and am trying to get that "singing" modern hi gain sound, but just can't get enough high end. Also, seems somewhat boomy.

Now Ive never used a LGW but I can speculate if it has some similiarities with the TS type circuit... not sure exactly what BJ changed but a TS will cut lows ahead of the clipping stage and selectively cut treble at the output (hence the mid-hump). Neither pedal gives a hard highly distorted, harsh clip type of sound. A really gainy distorted sound has a lot of upper odd-order harmonic content and also harder clipping (one leads to the other). This makes me think the combination you are using cant get you that liquid modern hi gain sound, unless you really slam one with the other and things can get pretty squealy.

Im sure others that have/had both pedals can give much more real world insight

A really good alternative is the EGDM -> HBOD ; lots of upper harmonics, more compression, harder clipping.... feed this into the HBOD which rounds things out and gives a "thump" not usually captured in high gain pedals. Voila! Match made in heaven

[Bobby D]

Actually the bst pedal for that high gain modern sound is the CHII ! But that's another story

got to agree here....the CH II that i got to demo BLEW ME AWAY.

i was gonna do some comparison videos with the CH II and some other modern high gain pedals, but the CH II just killed them all. it would not have been a fair fight. and some other manufacturers would have HATED me if i did that

but that CH II might well be the BEST high gain distortion i have ever heard. i even liked it better than the DRD. i liked it better than the FETTO. i liked it better than any other distortion pedal i have ever had

[cedjazz]

So I stack like this: RC Booster-LGW-HBOD-SBEQ... RC volume and gain at 9 oclock with treb and bass @ noon. SBEQ treb @ 11 and bass @ 9 or less. All running into a Reverend Hellhound( dark fendery) amp. I can switch a DRD in and out with the LGW. DRD is okay but when I engage the LGW, everything gets hella boomy.

[SteveA]

Actually the bst pedal for that high gain modern sound is the CHII ! But that's another story

got to agree here....the CH II that i got to demo BLEW ME AWAY.

i was gonna do some comparison videos with the CH II and some other modern high gain pedals, but the CH II just killed them all. it would not have been a fair fight. and some other manufacturers would have HATED me if i did that

but that CH II might well be the BEST high gain distortion i have ever heard. i even liked it better than the DRD. i liked it better than the FETTO. i liked it better than any other distortion pedal i have ever had

Haha The CHII is basically everything i've ever wanted in a high-gain pedal. Its open sounding, has this modern pristine yet very gainy sound. Its got GAIN !!!!!!! I mean lots and lots of gain!!!!!!! Well if you are looking for that kind of sound you gotta try one one of these days, you'll probably be in love with it

[thesjkexperience]

So I stack like this: RC Booster-LGW-HBOD-SBEQ... RC volume and gain at 9 oclock with treb and bass @ noon. SBEQ treb @ 11 and bass @ 9 or less. All running into a Reverend Hellhound( dark fendery) amp. I can switch a DRD in and out with the LGW. DRD is okay but when I engage the LGW, everything gets hella boomy.

I'm not a smart man, but why bother with the LGW?

[melodichaotic]

Actually the bst pedal for that high gain modern sound is the CHII ! But that's another story

got to agree here....the CH II that i got to demo BLEW ME AWAY.

i was gonna do some comparison videos with the CH II and some other modern high gain pedals, but the CH II just killed them all. it would not have been a fair fight. and some other manufacturers would have HATED me if i did that

but that CH II might well be the BEST high gain distortion i have ever heard. i even liked it better than the DRD. i liked it better than the FETTO. i liked it better than any other distortion pedal i have ever had

Haha The CHII is basically everything i've ever wanted in a high-gain pedal. Its open sounding, has this modern pristine yet very gainy sound. Its got GAIN !!!!!!! I mean lots and lots of gain!!!!!!! Well if you are looking for that kind of sound you gotta try one one of these days, you'll probably be in love with it

Get this...
..that was my CH II that Bobby demoed, so I know it well--there is a special sound to that one for sure, and I only sold it for my own personal discriminating tastes through my own rig based on what I want to hear completely in a hi gain pedal--for me, it was very close to being THE holy grail hi-gain pedal, BUT...as I was re-doing the SYOD twin demo today, I stacked V1>V2 with both drives set at noon,treble on both further into the CCW side, but still open, and volume on both at about 11 'o clock and VOILA...instant CH II!!

It has a little bit more umph in the lower mids, but with that same open, uncompressed, stinging, sweet, toothy, articulate, super focused hi-gain slice.

Will post in the next couple of days.