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Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:24 pm
by strings2wood
Might be cheaper to move house................. :wink:
And since I moved into my BJF Ashram......
I have decorated my cave nicely and the kids keep pedalling the bicyle to provide solar power to my amlifier.
I included a photo of the BJF mobile we use to pedal to our dealer....
I mean supplier.
The only thing that isn't supplied in a BJF box is the syringe!!!!!
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I can imagine Bjorn as the Mad Professor on Gilligans Island!!!!!

Let's face it....BJF pedals are like chips.....
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Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:46 pm
by thesjkexperience
hawaii121 wrote:yes, we all seem to be walking down that dark path... in a quest for satisfying gear and tone... mine started with amps, moved to hand wired amps, moved to nos tubes (first RCA, then Mazda and Mullard...), speakers (jensen to weber, weber to celestion, V30 to Gold), pickups (stock to seymour duncans and fralins), cables (any old would do till I tried evidence), now I'm on the pedal push - remember when cool colored Boss effects satisfied the urge? My boutique experience started with Fulltone, then Wampler, then RetroSonic, then Effectrode and Eventide, finally, I hit deep with the TOP, and then started wanting to know who this "Mad Professor" guy is... Now, I am writting crazy ramble and checking tracking numbers on an hourly basis waiting for my next BJFE fix! Save us all!!!


Don't stop at Fralin's check out Don Mare's stuff for singles and especially Teles. Ok, sorry, must - stay - focused!

Just got a MP MRD from Mr Hawaii121 today (excellent guy and packer), and a brand new KoT, but didnt really get too much time with them as the Wife has a sore back and needed help tonight with the anim.. errr kids. I had half an hour and just touched the surface. I found going MRD > SHOD > LGW to work well with any one or two on. I hope to get it all dialed in this weekend.

As for the Mighty KoT (high gain both sides) with stock setup I was less than impressed :o , but the Mad Professor is a hard act to follow. I am going to mess around with it a bit more, but I do like the clean boost of the high gain. It has a little SHOD going on without the character, but I am not diggin' the OD sound. I just set it to distortion>Clean boost, but cant play loud now due to everyone sleeping.

Wanna see a magic trick? Watch my KoT turn into a DBD or CAF! :twisted:

Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:14 pm
by melodichaotic
ptbarnum wrote:More FRF thoughts:
It can do SWF tones pretty well, which surprised me. Also shocking is that it stacks well, BUT, I like it before the Honeybee...which is a first for me with Bjorn's fuzzes.
The reason being, that I like the FRF in its mellower modes ( ie. 3rd knob at noon or ccw from there), but it is very smooth and bassy, and gains some needed sizzle for leads when pushed by another drive.
However, when the nature is full clockwise, it reminds me a bit of a tone bender mk1, and then it works great into the honeybee, gaining some body and warmth.
The only negative, so far, is the noise. It's a bit noisier than any of my other BJF fuzzes. It gets noticeable past 1 o' clock, but that's way more than enough gain, so it's not a huge problem.

Underrated pedal alert


I had a FRF...I thought the feel of that pedal was very good..easy to play, nice taper on the gain range and yes a bit noisy at the extreme, but plenty of gain/sustain.
Problem for me was that it was a bit too smooth sounding--more like a distortion pedal than a true fuzz(having a lot of different types of fuzz pedals).
It is cool sounding though...almost enough for me to want to keep it which I say in a positive respect. :mrgreen:

Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:20 pm
by melodichaotic
strings2wood wrote:Might be cheaper to move house................. :wink:
And since I moved into my BJF Ashram......
I have decorated my cave nicely and the kids keep pedalling the bicyle to provide solar power to my amlifier.
I included a photo of the BJF mobile we use to pedal to our dealer....
I mean supplier.
The only thing that isn't supplied in a BJF box is the syringe!!!!!
Image
I can imagine Bjorn as the Mad Professor on Gilligans Island!!!!!

Let's face it....BJF pedals are like chips.....
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Simon...that is some funny S#$T!!! Ha-Ha...always nice to see your comic relief on the Forum for a little "Laugh-In" jolt. Keeps things in balance! :mrgreen:

Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:33 pm
by Donner
8) Thats way to close to real , I aint sayin whos who tho :mrgreen:

we should rename this place Bjorns Island :wink:

Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:07 am
by strings2wood
Donner wrote:8) Thats way to close to real , I aint sayin whos who tho :mrgreen:
:wink:

wait up....beard....a tele....a DRD....and a jackalope...I think I know which is which Donner!!!

thesjkexperience wrote:As for the Mighty KoT (high gain both sides) with stock setup I was less than impressed :o , but the Mad Professor is a hard act to follow. I am going to mess around with it a bit more, but I do like the clean boost of the high gain. It has a little SHOD going on without the character, but I am not diggin' the OD sound. I just set it to distortion>Clean boost, but cant play loud now due to everyone sleeping.

Wanna see a magic trick? Watch my KoT turn into a DBD or CAF! :twisted:


Doesn't Donner's adage about thinking a pedal is great,
then stepping on a BJF hold true!

I waited 2 years for a KOT- Hi gain on the red side.
It just didn't meet my expectation of what I had heard.
In fairness- Mike (Analogman) did email me saying
he has a Fender Bassman where he doesn't get the volume much past 2 for
small indoor gigs.
He said for that with that amp
at that volume-
the KOT would not shine or come into it's own as it should.
So perhaps it's the combo, rather than just the pedal in some cases.
It wasn't doing it for me with a 60w Vibro King.
On a smaller Fender amp it might be something else.

Put any of my BJF's into a toally pristine clean amp- Different story.

from Gilligan's Island to Danger Island.
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(Uh Oh...Chongo!!!!)

I like living on Bjorn's Island.
So is the next pedal gonna be called the Minnow or the Coconut Cream Pie :idea: :mrgreen:
"Size of a Marshall Stack!!!!
Rosan Kobah!!"
("Don't you even think of pulling my donkey's tail........." )
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Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:40 am
by thesjkexperience
In all fairness I didnt get to play with the KoT very long or very loud. But, the OD sound want pleasant, so I switched the first side to distortion and left the second to clean. The high gain clean sound is pretty good until....

The beauty of Bjorn's designs is they sound great when my amps are clean and when they are dirty (amp list on left). I dont have a master volume, so that may be why they work with my amps regardless of what the tubes are doing. In fact the EGDM at lower distortion can do a great approximation of a germanium treble booster.

And as you all know, especially if you have tried brand X pedals, is the FEEL of the BJF is superior. And, because you can use different Voltages on most pedals you can change the character of each pedals to your rig that much better.

On an Island. I have cabin fever so bad most anything sounds good right now! BJorn's Island should also have a couple of nice longboard surf breaks in addition to a few others where we can harvest wave energy to power our toys :twisted:

Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:53 pm
by Donner
Well you have sort of hit on it - it is a bit of an island - once you get there, the rest of it is easily accessible....
BJs whole line is made to sit well next to each other and interact correctly ....
So if one of the drives works well with your rig the rest should be adjustable to your rig with the included knobs....

Once you hit that 'Nice 'other' pedal!....and then stomp the BJF and go ' uh Ill take this one instead' the rest will fall in line and you will see your board slowly fill up at each position with these little boxes ; ] it happened to me long ago and after I tried to get by with lesser pieces and ended up right back there a few times - I stopped bothering to fight it . Yes my pedals cost more than my guitar and amp put together .... but their value is always obvious.....

to me what has always set them apart is how the entire range is useful in its entire range...

BJs has said one of the 'secrets' of the CS40 is that it was designed at its maximum operation point .... or if it sounds great with all the knobs dimed it will sound great anywhere else ---- and this is true of his pedal designs - they sound good thru the whole range of the knobs ----- that takes a much deeper knowledge of design and mastery of parts selection..... I think thats the 'extra' that most people hear - there arent just sweet spots - no 'aw crap I bumped a knob and my tone is gone' - its all just adjustments to the core tone.........

Welcome to Quality Island.

Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:39 pm
by melodichaotic
Donner wrote:BJs has said one of the 'secrets' of the CS40 is that it was designed at its maximum operation point .... or if it sounds great with all the knobs dimed it will sound great anywhere else ---- and this is true of his pedal designs - they sound good thru the whole range of the knobs ----- that takes a much deeper knowledge of design and mastery of parts selection..... I think thats the 'extra' that most people hear - there arent just sweet spots - no 'aw crap I bumped a knob and my tone is gone' - its all just adjustments to the core tone.........

Welcome to Quality Island.


Ahhh....Quality Island...I arrived here a year ago, and used my boat to build a hut for me and Ginger :mrgreen: We're what you call "lifers" hee hee :lol:

Re: Uh oh, I'm in trouble

PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:29 pm
by ptbarnum
In the meantime, I exchanged a FGC that I'd been trying to bond with this week, for a MRD.
It's a mighty nice distortion. Pretty much impossible to make sound terrible. Heavy, but not necessarily a metal pedal :mrgreen: it's got a beautifully voiced presence knob (the best I've heard). Doesn't sound too much like my DRD, or the MR I had..it's its own drive.

Stacking: Very nice on it's own, but also takes most of my others well driving it, as well as pushing the Honeybee (got a little farty when blasted by my meathead dlx fuzz, but most do 8) ).
Dead quiet even at the highest gain settings...useful little guy!
I predict the MYT in my future...then, I'll stop buying pedals : :shock: