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SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:01 pm
by bsic
All,

Anyone know if 12:00 on the bass/treble knobs is intended to be the flat position for those bands? Hard to tell exactly without knowing the true unity gain point on the volume knob...

Bill

Re: SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:08 pm
by SteveA
I'd be interested in knowing that too. It does kinda seem that 12:00 is the standpoint though.

Re: SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:35 am
by Donner
the first ones the unity points were about 10 oclock on the bass knob and 2 oclock on the treble - this had to do with the working points on the parts used --- BJ reworked it a bit so it would come out to about noon on all three - but again the proper tuning is more important than it hitting exactly unity at exactly noon - theres more going on in there than the average EQ .... 8)

Re: SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:50 am
by SteveA
Question to Sonic :

At what setting do you have your bass and treble on your amp to match the SBEQ settings ?

Re: SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:37 am
by Donner
Yeah this is an easily under appreciated pedal.

Its two bands are correctly tuned to center freqs that most effect most guitar sounds - they are a bit different than whats on most guitar amps and graphic EQs.....
This is what your amps bass and treble controls SHOULD sound like ...

another problem with EQs is usually once you start adding or subtracting much you start getting dropouts and phase cancellations between the bands... the SBEQ is built to keep your tone as pure as possible and it also is built to take abuse and lightly distort in a pleasing way when pummeled by high gain signals ...... most EQs can do some ugly things when pushed.....

so really BJ goes to alot of trouble to tune these to be boring :mrgreen: no phase cancellations, no ugly clipping ~ just smooth warm bass - treble - and boost/cut where you want it. the correct companion for all those wonderfully sculpted distortions....

and PGC > SBEQ is still the best clean sound going for me. 8)

Re: SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:40 am
by thesjkexperience
SteveA wrote:Question to Sonic :

At what setting do you have your bass and treble on your amp to match the SBEQ settings ?


All three of my amps only have one tone control! ;) I love the SBEQ because I can use it as an always on amp fixer, unity tone changer, or lead booster at the end of the dirt chain, OR at the front of the dirt to fool the other boxes into thinking I am playing a humbucker guitar. If I were a pro I would have three of them on my board :twisted:

Re: SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:47 am
by thesjkexperience
Donner wrote:the first ones the unity points were about 10 oclock on the bass knob and 2 oclock on the treble - this had to do with the working points on the parts used --- BJ reworked it a bit so it would come out to about noon on all three - but again the proper tuning is more important than it hitting exactly unity at exactly noon - theres more going on in there than the average EQ .... 8)


I have #23. Is that an early one? It does sound like 10 o'clock is about unity on the bass knob, but it seems unity is around noon on the treble. Could be because of my single tone controls? I guess it doesn't matter as I twist them until I get what I like.

I have tried my SBEQ at 9, 12 and 18 volts. To me, on my box, it seems fattest at 12 volts. 9 reduces fidelity and 18 has lots of fidelity and headroom, but sometimes seems thin compared to 12 volts.

Re: SBEQ knob positions

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:44 am
by Donner
thesjkexperience wrote:
Donner wrote:the first ones the unity points were about 10 oclock on the bass knob and 2 oclock on the treble - this had to do with the working points on the parts used --- BJ reworked it a bit so it would come out to about noon on all three - but again the proper tuning is more important than it hitting exactly unity at exactly noon - theres more going on in there than the average EQ .... 8)


I have #23. Is that an early one? It does sound like 10 o'clock is about unity on the bass knob, but it seems unity is around noon on the treble. Could be because of my single tone controls? I guess it doesn't matter as I twist them until I get what I like.

I have tried my SBEQ at 9, 12 and 18 volts. To me, on my box, it seems fattest at 12 volts. 9 reduces fidelity and 18 has lots of fidelity and headroom, but sometimes seems thin compared to 12 volts.


Exactly. Believe your own ears - your particular unit is tuned the way it is :mrgreen: As said earlier correct sound is the first and really only consideration - normal parts variation may put my 2 oclock at your noon and thats just what it is - parts variation ...... beleive your own ears, and understand what your are hearing- if it sounds good, it does.
8)