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What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:41 am
by scottcw
I plugged in my new to me BBOD this evening. I compared it to another pedal that I am very familiar with as it has been a mainstay on my board for 10+ years. Without waxing eloquent or using hyperbole, what I noticed is special about the BBOD, and other BJF pedals, is that they add their "color" while maintaining the original tone. The other pedal added treble/presence at the expense of bass or "body." The BBOD added treble with the treble knob turned full up, but the bass/body of the original tone is preserved. I find this a very unique quality in BJF pedals. To use a cooking analogy, BJF pedals add their spice without masking the flavor of the dish in any way.

Discuss.

Re: What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:38 am
by Donner
Yes its that refined quality while maintaining the life in them .............. its easy to filter out the bad stuff but usually alot of the good stuff gets cut out too --- it really is in the fine tuning - and once you get use to playing things are 'correct' its real hard to tolerate ones that arent ..... 8)

Re: What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:23 am
by melodichaotic
Donner wrote:Yes its that refined quality while maintaining the life in them .............. its easy to filter out the bad stuff but usually alot of the good stuff gets cut out too --- it really is in the fine tuning - and once you get use to playing things are 'correct' its real hard to tolerate ones that arent ..... 8)

Donner has said this on more than one occasion, and it holds it's truth like the Holy Grail, and that's exactly it--most of what you want, and least of what you don't want without that "quick-fix" trade-off you hear in so many other designs.

If you were to look at a circuit based on parts/build cost, you might come up with an inexpensive figure...factor in BJ's design ideal/ideology, and like the AMEX commercial, it's priceless! :mrgreen:

It's like recording a cover song and trying to "improve" upon it, vs. staring at a blank page of sheet music until you create something that kicks ass! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:40 am
by Donner
right, its like the 'noise' problem - its easy to get rid of hiss and crackle and background noise -- just cut the treble !!! of course you lose all the detail and interesting harmonics too, but hey ~ no more hiss !!! ........................... or if you truly understand the way things work and why, you can optimize the part selection and part interaction to get rid of the pulp AND keep all the juice. (unless you like pulp too) 8)

Re: What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:04 am
by melodichaotic
sonictroubadour wrote:
melodichaotic wrote:If you were to look at a circuit based on parts/build cost, you might come up with an inexpensive figure...factor in BJ's design ideal/ideology, and like the AMEX commercial, it's priceless! :mrgreen:



Well, it's for MasterCard, not AMEX, but I agree with your point.


Right...at least for me it's a good indicator that I really don't watch much TV these days! :lol:

Re: What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:55 pm
by Donner
melodichaotic wrote:
sonictroubadour wrote:
melodichaotic wrote:If you were to look at a circuit based on parts/build cost, you might come up with an inexpensive figure...factor in BJ's design ideal/ideology, and like the AMEX commercial, it's priceless! :mrgreen:



Well, it's for MasterCard, not AMEX, but I agree with your point.


Right...at least for me it's a good indicator that I really don't watch much TV these days! :lol:


Ha! me either - I was just commenting on not watching commercial TV in so long I dont even know whats for sale ; ] havent seen a commercial in almost 6 months .....

Re: What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:49 pm
by scottcw
Now a follow up thought... in some cases, subtracting might be beneficial. Example, "body" sounds great when playing guitar at home, but sometimes a treble boost while cutting bass is just the ticket in a band situation. I always let the bass guitar fill the low end. I want my guitar tone to cut.

Re: What I find special about BJF pedals...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:22 am
by cabo
i thought they were special because of the " Big Talent Booster (BTB) - Component built into every BJFE pedal (first discussed and then incorporated on 02 September 2004) " :lol:

seriously though your cooking analogy I would agree with.