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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby huckleboogie » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:29 pm

cool playin 8)
but it makes me realize again that i'm not a compressor type at all...well except for rhythm stuff !
i remember Hiram Bullock (RIP), one of the coolest guitarists IMHO, he always had his compressor on and got away with it :mrgreen:
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Donner » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:42 pm

huckleboogie wrote:cool playin 8)
but it makes me realize again that i'm not a compressor type at all...well except for rhythm stuff !
i remember Hiram Bullock (RIP), one of the coolest guitarists IMHO, he always had his compressor on and got away with it :mrgreen:


Bummer I didnt know Hiram died !
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:42 pm

huckleboogie wrote:cool playin 8)
but it makes me realize again that i'm not a compressor type at all...well except for rhythm stuff !
i remember Hiram Bullock (RIP), one of the coolest guitarists IMHO, he always had his compressor on and got away with it :mrgreen:



well.......now that HONEYBEE is here, that will more than likely be on more than the PGC 8)
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:44 pm

Donner wrote:
huckleboogie wrote:cool playin 8)
but it makes me realize again that i'm not a compressor type at all...well except for rhythm stuff !
i remember Hiram Bullock (RIP), one of the coolest guitarists IMHO, he always had his compressor on and got away with it :mrgreen:


Bummer I didnt know Hiram died !



yep....sad too.....

i think THIS sadowsky strat used to be Hirams. it is a VERY early sadowsky with strat style headstcok. and it's CHEAP for a sadowsky:

http://www.gbase.com/gear/sadowsky-vint ... -tone-sunb

the DEALER does not know it was Hiram's...shhhhhh......it will GO UP in price :mrgreen:
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby thesjkexperience » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:42 pm

I am far from an expert on the SBEQ, but I first put it at the end of my dirt to EQ it before the amp which worked very well, but the last pedal can color the tone to make the dirt boxes in front sound more the same. I play a Strat with lower output pickups and often use a D*A*M Red Rooster to boost my little amps when overdriven or at lower volumes to drive my dirt boxes. I found that I can get a similar sound to the Rooster with the SBEQ as a booster. The nice thing is it doesn't get thin when I back the volume down for rhythm like treble boosters tend to do.

I am now wondering if a compressor can do the same thing as a booster, but still be there for more sustain when needed, and put the SBEQ back at the end. All my amps have a single tone control and I was buying the SBEQ in the hopes of expanding or better controlling the tone of my amps. I know my friend says many of his effects sound better with a compressor in front, but so far I have never met a compressor I liked. But until I found Bjorn's pedals I was never too hot on ODs either!

I don't think the FGC is popular enough to really find one quickly on the used market and they are rather expensive new, but if you don't like them you can always send them back and only be out $15. What stinks is I need to sell something to have the cash to buy it. I also wish I could have both the FGC and the PGC side by side to chose the right one if any.
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Kinger » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:52 am

Nice work Bobby! I thought you really hit the spot with your phrasing in the second solo :mrgreen:

Your Rhythm section was doing the right things as well!
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby huckleboogie » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:20 am

Slim Henderson wrote:
huckleboogie wrote:cool playin 8)
but it makes me realize again that i'm not a compressor type at all...well except for rhythm stuff !
i remember Hiram Bullock (RIP), one of the coolest guitarists IMHO, he always had his compressor on and got away with it :mrgreen:



well.......now that HONEYBEE is here, that will more than likely be on more than the PGC 8)



ahh, got Your HONEYBEE!!! i got to get me another one one day, too. for a minute i thought SHOD would replace it, but now i know theyre different animals....gotta have both.
and BTW, of course the PGC sounds great!!!! i especially liked the "smooth" vid You did while ago, think You played thru Newarks super
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:18 pm

thanks guys! :mrgreen:

the SHOD and HBOD are different animals, for sure.....

some will choose the SHOD.

i ended up choosing the HBOD.

both are VERY good.

and there's also the "fairy dust" factor. i particularly like looking down at my board and seeing BJF artwork. :D

i am REALLY trying to get my board down to FIVE pedals. it's hard to do. but i would like to make a pedaltrain junior size board with 5 pedals...
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby melodichaotic » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:56 pm

Donner wrote:
melodichaotic wrote:
Donner wrote:HA I was just thinking about this recently 8)

You know I think alot of people when they are wanting a distortion pedal they just as much want the compression/sustain from the distortion effect....and the EQ changes

if they were given a choice of only having the sustain of the dirt pedal or having the dirt itself many would take the sustain/compression ....


thats part of the magic of the PGC LGW SBEQ trio ~~~ you can separate the Sustain and the Dirt and the EQ ---- its fun to have those three set up so that all the LGW is adding is dirt and when you take it out the only change is the dirt but the sustain and EQ stay the same..... a stinging sustaining clean sound can be just as satisfying as a full on distortion pedal..... 8)


A+ on that...it's like it goes right back into the sustain pedal of a piano. There is NO dirt or distortion there, just suuweet sustain whenever you want. A REALLY good acoustic hums the same way. :mrgreen:


Yes I was thinking of the Acoustic analogy also - I play alot of acoustic guitar and what I really want in a compressor is one that gives my electric tone the feel and sustain of an acoustic - still dynamic but when you lay into it it will ring for awhile.... this is what a well operating amp can do as well..... and its really a big part of that last 5% of tone we are trying to get - the sweet natural feel......

Hmmm I like the Piano sustain pedal thought Ill have to contemplate that for a bit - thats almost more like reverb, but there is a link...hmmmmmm


Yes, yes, and yes! :mrgreen:

That's why I love my Matchless DC-30...when I plug straight into it and play clean, it RINGS and sustains with harmonics...ahh, the last 5%...it's like Taylor(Charlton Heston) seeking the truth in the forbidden zone in "Planet of the Apes"...MUCH time and money spent on that.

The piano sustain pedal, one step further...an AMAZING acoustic hums before you even strum it-balanced lows to highs, the top resonating/breathing just right, projecting, etc...6 strings over a small wooden cavern.

A piano in a much larger wooden box with many more strings vibrating sympathetically when the sustain pedal is depressed, further enhanced by the "metal harp" they are attached to...at this dynamic/size, it's sustain that merges with reverb in the acoustic realm...like an amazingly realized reverb tank with decay AND pitch vibrating properties. :wink:
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:14 pm

yep........that's why i fell in LOVE with my Babicz guitar.


the lateral compression soundboard makes these guitars RING LIKE A BELL.


this guitar.....a touch of PGC and SBEQ.......and it's BIG TONE TIME!

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