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in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:13 pm

just did a gig where 90% of the time i used NO dirt pedals at all :shock:

just pine green, SBEQ, and a touch of (you guessed it) mad professor deep blue delay.

sounded AMAZING.



candy apple fuzz makes a guest appearance at the end of the guitar solo :mrgreen:
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:21 pm

sonictroubadour wrote:Tasty, but where's the famous green '69 Strat from all the demo videos?

Can't wait to get my PGC DLX!



you getting a PGC deluxe???? wow, that is a RARE BIRD!!!!!

my '69 strat is getting some rest and some love from my friend Trina. the GMW strat in that video is AMAZING, and that's gonna be my workhorse for a while....
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Donner » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:14 pm

HA I was just thinking about this recently 8)

You know I think alot of people when they are wanting a distortion pedal they just as much want the compression/sustain from the distortion effect....and the EQ changes

if they were given a choice of only having the sustain of the dirt pedal or having the dirt itself many would take the sustain/compression ....


thats part of the magic of the PGC LGW SBEQ trio ~~~ you can separate the Sustain and the Dirt and the EQ ---- its fun to have those three set up so that all the LGW is adding is dirt and when you take it out the only change is the dirt but the sustain and EQ stay the same..... a stinging sustaining clean sound can be just as satisfying as a full on distortion pedal..... 8)
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby melodichaotic » Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:48 pm

Donner wrote:HA I was just thinking about this recently 8)

You know I think alot of people when they are wanting a distortion pedal they just as much want the compression/sustain from the distortion effect....and the EQ changes

if they were given a choice of only having the sustain of the dirt pedal or having the dirt itself many would take the sustain/compression ....


thats part of the magic of the PGC LGW SBEQ trio ~~~ you can separate the Sustain and the Dirt and the EQ ---- its fun to have those three set up so that all the LGW is adding is dirt and when you take it out the only change is the dirt but the sustain and EQ stay the same..... a stinging sustaining clean sound can be just as satisfying as a full on distortion pedal..... 8)


A+ on that...it's like it goes right back into the sustain pedal of a piano. There is NO dirt or distortion there, just suuweet sustain whenever you want. A REALLY good acoustic hums the same way. :mrgreen:
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby thesjkexperience » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:01 am

Any comparison to the Forest Green by MP? I noticed that the MP has a compressor/sustain switch which I find interesting since I never liked the spike of the note lopped off for blues style, but I do like sustain and there could be times compression would be a good thing.
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:14 am

thesjkexperience wrote:Any comparison to the Forest Green by MP? I noticed that the MP has a compressor/sustain switch which I find interesting since I never liked the spike of the note lopped off for blues style, but I do like sustain and there could be times compression would be a good thing.



i have only tried the FGC once at NAMM.....and it sounded GOOD. i would like to hear the difference with the sustain mode on FGC.

but newarkwilder had a PGC, and i fell IN LOVE with it, so i had to have a PGC :mrgreen:

have not regretted it EVER.....the PGC gets used on both electric and acoustic rigs! PGC and SBEQ are essential....
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby thesjkexperience » Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:54 am

I have been reading a few other posts (search) and it seems some people like the FGC after the dirt pedals in the sustain mode. At the moment I have actually replaced my D*A*M Red Rooster with my SBEQ as I can get a somewhat similar boost, but it doesn't thin out when I turn down for rhythm work.

I dont have the cash to purchase new, so I will have to scour the used bins for one, or a PGC, what ever comes first :twisted:
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Donner » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:16 pm

melodichaotic wrote:
Donner wrote:HA I was just thinking about this recently 8)

You know I think alot of people when they are wanting a distortion pedal they just as much want the compression/sustain from the distortion effect....and the EQ changes

if they were given a choice of only having the sustain of the dirt pedal or having the dirt itself many would take the sustain/compression ....


thats part of the magic of the PGC LGW SBEQ trio ~~~ you can separate the Sustain and the Dirt and the EQ ---- its fun to have those three set up so that all the LGW is adding is dirt and when you take it out the only change is the dirt but the sustain and EQ stay the same..... a stinging sustaining clean sound can be just as satisfying as a full on distortion pedal..... 8)


A+ on that...it's like it goes right back into the sustain pedal of a piano. There is NO dirt or distortion there, just suuweet sustain whenever you want. A REALLY good acoustic hums the same way. :mrgreen:


Yes I was thinking of the Acoustic analogy also - I play alot of acoustic guitar and what I really want in a compressor is one that gives my electric tone the feel and sustain of an acoustic - still dynamic but when you lay into it it will ring for awhile.... this is what a well operating amp can do as well..... and its really a big part of that last 5% of tone we are trying to get - the sweet natural feel......

Hmmm I like the Piano sustain pedal thought Ill have to contemplate that for a bit - thats almost more like reverb, but there is a link...hmmmmmm
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby Bobby D » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:00 pm

my Babicz acoustic, with PGC and SBEQ does indeed get close to the sound of a GRAND PIANO.....it's amazing :mrgreen:
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Re: in praise of the pine green

Postby thesjkexperience » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:26 pm

sonictroubadour wrote:I have a FGC and love the sustain mode. I mainly use it, not the compressor mode. I don't, however, use it after my dirt boxes; I use it first in my chain. You can create wonderful sounding clean tones by stacking it into a relatively clean running OD (like the HBOD or Tim, in my case) and I've also found that it can really open up the higher freq sparkle on certain higher gain pedals (my Landgraff MO-D is the most notable example that I, personally, have experience with; I haven't yet tried it with my Model H, as I'm still tooooo in love with the sound of the Model H stacked into the HBOD!). I wasn't too impressed with the Landgraff until I hit it with the PGC. Then it was like - WOW - a whole other sonic world!

Can't compare the PGC to the FGC, as I've never had the privilege of playing a PGC. I'll give you a complete shootout review once I get my PGC DLX. :D

My $0.02


Thanks, I have never had a compressor, so I am not too sure what to do with it or where. I keep switching my SBEQ from after germanium to after all dirt and back again. I dont know if a compressor can do what the SBEQ does when I run it as a booster for my ODs, but some things you just cant know until you run it with your rig.
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