New to the forum! Just bought a EGDM and HBOD! Questions...

[5digits6strings]

this is my buddy MIKE from MAE MUSIC in ft lauderdale, the most AWESOME store in all of broward county.

so......mike, meet newarkwilder Mike

Mike @ MAE is a great guy, and has my old bogner 2x12 cabinet

HB is an unusual pedal and "feel". I have to go to key west in the morning, but will be back next week, and will stop by with my pedalboard.......you've already tried my snow white fuzz, and i promised you a demo of the little green wonder. also, the sweet honey OD will be here soon, so that may come with me to the store as well.

I really want to talk Ken into getting the MP pedals into the store, as they are hard to get down here, and MAE is the best store down here to be a dealer, by a long shot.

and you will find tons of helpful people here...you've already been lurking. it's about time you joined up.

i found my VERY FIRST BJF pedal at MAE years ago, one that Dan Spitz from Anthrax had traded in...

"hmmmmm....what's this? it LOOKS cool.....wonder what it does? emerald green distortion machine? i'll buy it"

heh

it's all YOUR FAULT

Bobby D! I just sent you a PM last night! You know, you're recommendations are a big part of what lead me to pick these pedals up. I'm just a bit worried about that SHOD though. The previous owner said it was always like that, and he usually stacked it, so never noticed the issue that I'm talking about. I dunnoOOooo. Please call me on my cell number a day before you come in, and I'll bring the SHOD for comparison. See ya!

[Bobby D]

Bobby D! I just sent you a PM last night! You know, you're recommendations are a big part of what lead me to pick these pedals up. I'm just a bit worried about that SHOD though. The previous owner said it was always like that, and he usually stacked it, so never noticed the issue that I'm talking about. I dunnoOOooo. Please call me on my cell number a day before you come in, and I'll bring the SHOD for comparison. See ya!

yes....you have HBOD, and the new mad professor model is the SHOD.......they are similar, but different. the honeybee is a very dynamic pedal that reminds many people of a ragged old tweed deluxe sort of tone. to MY ears, it is the almost jangly sound of "americana/alt.country" sounds. the SHOD to my ears sounds like a bigger, fuller super reverb with fresh tubes and a good power supply.

i will be back in town next week, and will make sure to stop by the store with my pedalboard, so we can go into that awesome amp room full of boutique amps, close the door, and do some tone-testing

let me hear your honeybee, and i will know if it is "well" or not. and although the thought of sending it home may be scary, if it DOES have issues, i would prefer to see it go back to Bjorn for repair if necessary. unless it is something simple, like a bad potentiometer, then i can have BJ send me the part, and we can do it at your shop, no worries. the SWITCH can go bad as well, and these can many times be opened up and cleaned.

have no fear...your honeybee WILL be well. it may NOT be the pedal for you, it depends upon what sound you are chasing.

i will PM you my cell, so you can call me and i will put you into my phone list, and i will make it a point to come by the store after i get back from the keys

[Bobby D]

PS: regarding your EGDM, there is a gain trimmer on the inside that you can play with

that one can also be run at 18v, and it RAGES at 18v........

[Bobby D]

here is a VERY cool set of clips by huckleboogie, a member here and a "road dog" guitarist who demos the Honeybee and the Sweet Honey OD pedals side by side:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... tent=music

[5digits6strings]

Bobby D! I just sent you a PM last night! You know, you're recommendations are a big part of what lead me to pick these pedals up. I'm just a bit worried about that SHOD though. The previous owner said it was always like that, and he usually stacked it, so never noticed the issue that I'm talking about. I dunnoOOooo. Please call me on my cell number a day before you come in, and I'll bring the SHOD for comparison. See ya!

yes....you have HBOD, and the new mad professor model is the SHOD.......they are similar, but different. the honeybee is a very dynamic pedal that reminds many people of a ragged old tweed deluxe sort of tone. to MY ears, it is the almost jangly sound of "americana/alt.country" sounds. the SHOD to my ears sounds like a bigger, fuller super reverb with fresh tubes and a good power supply.

i will be back in town next week, and will make sure to stop by the store with my pedalboard, so we can go into that awesome amp room full of boutique amps, close the door, and do some tone-testing

let me hear your honeybee, and i will know if it is "well" or not. and although the thought of sending it home may be scary, if it DOES have issues, i would prefer to see it go back to Bjorn for repair if necessary. unless it is something simple, like a bad potentiometer, then i can have BJ send me the part, and we can do it at your shop, no worries. the SWITCH can go bad as well, and these can many times be opened up and cleaned.

have no fear...your honeybee WILL be well. it may NOT be the pedal for you, it depends upon what sound you are chasing.

i will PM you my cell, so you can call me and i will put you into my phone list, and i will make it a point to come by the store after i get back from the keys

I meant HBOD! You BJFE guys and your acronyms! Hehe. I don't hear a lot of jangle on the HBOD, although I've only tested it out with Les Pauls. Maybe a bright guitar would be a better match...

[5digits6strings]

I'm less concerned about whether or not the HBOD is damaged, now that I had a chance to crank up my Hot Cat 30R Head and 2x12 cab. I did a shootout with all of the pedals in question: HBOD, EGOD, and Fulldrive 2 Mosfet.

The output level on the HBOD was generally more than adequate through the Bad Cat, however, it just doesn't work as a booster with the volume all the way up and the gain below 9:00. That may be why I thought there was an issue with it...so many pedals of this type can be used this way, so it was a bit surprising that it couldn't use it like that. Regardless, once the gain is past 9:00, the volume increase is notable and more than enough for medium OD sounds.

Also, compared to the high output of the EGOD, the output level on the HBOD is notably lower. But then again, so many pedals that are coming out just have excessive output, so I guess it's all relative. How much do I really need? Well, for me, enough to get unity gain with the volume up, and the gain all the way down, I suppose.

Through the clean side of the Bad Cat, the overdrive characteristics on the HBOD are nice and smooth, however, I still found it difficult to match the level of treble with the clean sound. I suppose this is intentional, and it may be better matched with a bright Fender type amp. Also, something that was not very noticeable on my little practice amp, was the bass boost that this pedal adds. Compared with the Fulldrive, it sounds warmer, certainly, but lacking in a bit of cut and clarity for my taste. Now, on the other hand, the Fulldrive sounds a bit gnarly on the comp-cut mode with the overdrive past 9:00...but it's not noticeable with a full band.

Now, the EGDM on the other hand, has a close enough voicing to my HC30 that it can be used as a slightly compressed boost on the clean channel as well as a lead boost on the gain channel! There was a bit too much treble at certain settings, but if I understad correctly, this can be adjusted via the internal trim pot. I'll explore that tonight!

Has anyone compared the Honey Bee with an OD-1 or Klon side by side?

[Strat-o-lux]

Slightly off topic in that I don't have a Honey Bee, but I have done a side-by-side comparison of the SHOD and a Klon thru an amp that loves the Klon. The SHOD held its own and, properly adjusted, can produce a fair (low gain) Klon imitation (not sure why anyone would necessarily want a Klon imitation, but you get the point). The feel of the two ODs is rather different; and the Klon can be much more a distortion box with the gain up. Judging by different folks' descriptions and Huckleboogie's recorded comparison, the SHOD is probably more Klon-like than the HBO.

I'm still a fan of the Klon with BF/SF Fender amps, but I'm totally stoked by the SHOD and eager to get my hands on an HBO.

J.

[5digits6strings]

Slightly off topic in that I don't have a Honey Bee, but I have done a side-by-side comparison of the SHOD and a Klon thru an amp that loves the Klon. The SHOD held its own and, properly adjusted, can produce a fair (low gain) Klon imitation (not sure why anyone would necessarily want a Klon imitation, but you get the point). The feel of the two ODs is rather different; and the Klon can be much more a distortion box with the gain up. Judging by different folks' descriptions and Huckleboogie's recorded comparison, the SHOD is probably more Klon-like than the HBO.

I'm still a fan of the Klon with BF/SF Fender amps, but I'm totally stoked by the SHOD and eager to get my hands on an HBO.

J.

How about the level of compression on the Klon? Is it less compressed than the HBOD at low gain levels? Have you tried a Fulldrive in comp-cut mode?

[Strat-o-lux]

Compression... good question. The SHOD's dynamic response to pick attack makes the answer to this a bit complicated - my feeling is the perceived level of compression varies significantly depending on how you play. That's one of the things that's so cool about this pedal. The Focus control affects this as well.

The Klon used (as I use it) on a low gain setting doesn't seem to alter the compression characteristic of the amp in any significant way. And that would be the great merit of the Klon - it sort of disappears into the preamp of a vintage Fender. At least that's my experience using it with vintage style single coil pickups into a variety of BF Fender amps (and '70 SR). I don't favor the Klon with most other amps.

I haven't played the Fulldrive.