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What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby mudster » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:52 pm

The LGW has a socket so you can swap out chips, but.....

- I wondered if there was any recommendations beyond the 2 chips that have been used by BJFE and
- I am unsure where one buys these IC ships, even the standard 2.

I think mine has the chip that came in the first units. The writing is so small that I can't actually read the darn thing, but the sound is real smooth, so I'm guessing based on BJ's description of the two he used found elsewhere on the forum.

Any help on how to locate these appreciated, and if IC chip is the wrong term please tell me the right one!

I really dig this pedal. I have been trying to sell it because I think I could get by with the MP version, but I really don't mind keeping it as it sounds so good. Besides, I can always say, "I tried to sell it honey....it's the damn economy!!"
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby briggs » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:41 pm

The original chip was an LF353 I believe, which was later changed to a TLC272 type.

The LF353 has more headroom than the TLC272, so you will hear the LEDs in the clipping circuit more. The TLC272 will start to clip before the LEDs do, so it adds more of it's own character to the sound.

You can buy the chips at Banzai Effects (in Germany, but I'm sure there are many other places that stock them closer to your home!), Mouser Electronics, DigiKey Electronics. You just need to get to grips with their catalogue systems!

There are many opamps you could try - I'll list a few that are "in vogue" - OPA2134, for it's use in the infamous Clay Jones OD, The LM1458 - Nice and smooth, sounds nice in a Lovepedal Eternity/Tubescreamer setting so would probably work nice in a LGW. The NE5532, it has a nice control over the low end and it doesn't fizz at you or spit nasty artifacts into your signal, it's specified as a low noise type too :).

I would suggest you start with those and see how you like the differences!


Edit - Bjorn just made a post on the subject here: http://www.bjfe.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=332
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby mudster » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:30 pm

Thanks for taking time for a response Briggs, I appreciate it!
I am really enjoying this pedal and the honeybee together.
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby briggs » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:34 am

No worries! Once you start experimenting with opamps you'll quickly get addicted. At my worst I think I had about 50 different types :!: I'm now down to only having about 10 in stock at once, having whittled my way down to a few favorites :wink: What you need to remember is that 99% of dual opamps have the same pin out so can therefore be exchanged and tested in various pedals very easily. It's rare that you get a dual opamp that won't match the standard pin out.
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby Donner » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:28 pm

OPA2134 8)

Yup, this is what Ive had in mine for a long time, and I really like the way the body control works with this one too.
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby mrpicard » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:55 am

I have thought about doing that many times myself. However, I am pretty scared that I would like all the ICs and so I would have to get heaps of LGW pedals for each separate chip. I see it as a huge black hole that I fight to keep away from :-). However, I can see myself getting sucked in..
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby Bobby D » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:22 pm

this LGW has the "original" opamp chip that was in the first BJF LGW models...i like this one!



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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby nibus » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:03 pm

I like how the Priority Mail box is in the background... looks like my house!

I also like where you said "let's play with the body knob"... heheh that's what she said...
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby Bobby D » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:15 pm

nibus wrote:I like how the Priority Mail box is in the background... looks like my house!

I also like where you said "let's play with the body knob"... heheh that's what she said...


heh 8) the body knob :lol:

i was really happy with the way my LGW demo came out. i compared it to the "industry standard" PGS demo, and i thought i did a better job in showing how the pedal sounded. not just patting myself on the back here.....but i really wanted to show how that knob worked, and what it does to the tone.

i had a BJF LGW, and it sounded great, then i got the MP LGW, and it was really good too....but it sounded/felt a little different. after talking with BJ and reading about the opamp chip switching, my MP LGW was the LF 353 in it, instead of the TLC272.

still, i will have to give one of the burr brown chips a try as well.

the LGW is a really great "take" on the ts808. but as many of us are, i am waiting for that email from sebastian telling me the sweet honey is ready 8)

i am really interested to see if the SHOD will replace the LGW on my board, or if it will AUGMENT it. i want to see how it stacks. i want to see how it mates with fuzz.

little by little, my board is becoming more MP pedals than BJF, which is cool with me.....but i think NOTHING will ever replace the SWF on my board. i still have never heard ANY fuzz that sounds like the SWF/AWF. most elegant fuzz i have ever heard. and i am using it COMPLETELY WRONG :lol:
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Re: What IC Chip would add a touch of distortion to LGW?

Postby nibus » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:17 pm

Slim Henderson wrote:little by little, my board is becoming more MP pedals than BJF, which is cool with me.....but i think NOTHING will ever replace the SWF on my board. i still have never heard ANY fuzz that sounds like the SWF/AWF. most elegant fuzz i have ever heard. and i am using it COMPLETELY WRONG :lol:


You know what they say - there's no wrong way to play a fuzz pedal!!
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